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Suspected Illegal Immigrant Charged With Rape, Impregnating 10-Year-Old Girl
AP ^ | Thursday, May 08, 2008

Posted on 05/08/2008 7:26:46 AM PDT by pillut48

ST. ANTHONY, Idaho — A suspected illegal immigrant has been charged with raping a 10-year-old girl who later gave birth in eastern Idaho.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; hangemhigh; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; moralabsolutes
"Illegal immigrants don't hurt anyone", my foot!! >:-(

Amazing this child was allowed to actually give birth, and wasn't forced to have an abortion--I'm stunned!

1 posted on 05/08/2008 7:26:47 AM PDT by pillut48
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To: pillut48

I am curious as to whether or not the perpetrator was a complete stranger or if he was an acquaintance of the victim. Because if this had happened in USSR-Washington State (where I live) and he was a complete stranger, his punishment would be less than if he was an acquaintance.

Make sense to anyone?


2 posted on 05/08/2008 7:41:28 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: pillut48
The article clearly notes that the perp is not in the United States legally, so why is he still a suspected illegal immigrant? Since he likes to pick on little girls, maybe he needs a date with a little rope.



3 posted on 05/08/2008 7:42:21 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: pillut48

Agreed! If there was ever an argument for abortion, this is it. Very sad that she was allowed to have this baby.


4 posted on 05/08/2008 7:42:36 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: panaxanax

this would be the only justification for an abortion, but even then, I still think that it is best not to put a 10 year old girl thru the trauma of an abortion.

Not that child birth is a picnic, mind you. Still, it is the better alternative.


5 posted on 05/08/2008 7:45:40 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: panaxanax

You misunderstood me—I am 100% *against* abortion, for ANY reason. It is by the grace of God that this child is alive!
God must have special plans for him/her.

And the story doesn’t clarify if she will get to keep the baby—maybe she has a very supportive family that is going to help raise the baby. Prayers for the poor ‘mother’ in her and the baby’s future.


6 posted on 05/08/2008 7:51:25 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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To: pillut48

Build the fence. Electrify it.


7 posted on 05/08/2008 7:53:00 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: popdonnelly

...doing the job Americans won’t do.


8 posted on 05/08/2008 7:53:36 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: pillut48

geez....TEN??

The rope is too good for this creep.


9 posted on 05/08/2008 7:53:54 AM PDT by bigbob (2)
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To: pillut48
Not to take away from a horrible story, but I'm actually surprised the 10 year old was already having a period.... When I was a kids NO ONE was menstruating at that age.
10 posted on 05/08/2008 7:55:22 AM PDT by TriGirl (Lurking for 7 years!!!!!)
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To: Liz; calcowgirl; Calpernia; indylindy; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; pissant; SoConPubbie

Speechless-with-rage PING.


11 posted on 05/08/2008 7:58:10 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: popdonnelly
Electrify it.

150kVp @ 300A should do nicely.

Kind of like a bug zapper.

12 posted on 05/08/2008 8:01:03 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: TriGirl

Things are very different now, it is not at all uncommon for 9 and 10 year old girls to have periods. I think it is due to the hormones in so much of the meat. I just wonder what the long term results of such early maturity will be.


13 posted on 05/08/2008 8:02:06 AM PDT by pepperdog (The world has gone crazy.)
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To: pillut48

Would skinning him alive fall into the excessive punishment category?


14 posted on 05/08/2008 8:03:21 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: pillut48

I am actually surprised she survived the childbirth! That would be very hard for a 10 year old. I am for hanging this man but I don’t know......should we have him work and have pay child support?


15 posted on 05/08/2008 8:04:00 AM PDT by Morgana (Muslims.......I can't believe these people are that crazy without alcohol!)
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To: TriGirl

Things have changed for some reason. It happens but it’s still pretty rare for that age.


16 posted on 05/08/2008 8:05:16 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: pillut48
Related Thread:

Ten Yr. Old Rape Victim Gives Birth: Suspect Arrested

 

17 posted on 05/08/2008 8:09:00 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: metmom
Would skinning him alive fall into the excessive punishment category?

No. Ahumado style would be good for a start. (A 1-inch-wide strip starting on the bottom of his foot, all the way up the back and over his head and down the front).

18 posted on 05/08/2008 8:10:21 AM PDT by MJemison
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To: TriGirl

My mom started at 9, I started at 9. My daughter started 2 months after turning 10. Some families do menstruate earlier, some later. My family also goes through menapause about years earlier than most.


19 posted on 05/08/2008 8:12:01 AM PDT by Southerngl
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To: pillut48

Once upon a time in America

The Men ruled the towns they lived in. Murderers, Horse thieves, child molesters and rapists lived in fear of being caught and immediately hung.

Now the Men in this country have surrendered their responsibility to a government that protects and supports those who prey on the weak and innocent.

Execution is far too good for any maggot who does something like this.

Unless of course he’s pulled apart by horses.


20 posted on 05/08/2008 8:13:28 AM PDT by tueffelhunden
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To: pillut48
More from the link:

The girl gave birth less than two weeks ago by caesarian section at Madison Memorial Hospital in Rexburg, Fremont County Sheriff Ralph C. Davis and other authorities said. Officials would not disclose the gender, date of birth or paternity of the baby.

“I wouldn't have believed a 10-year-old could conceive in the first place,” Davis said.

A hospital spokeswoman would not discuss the condition of the girl or the baby and would not say whether either was still in the hospital Wednesday.

The story was first reported by KIDK Television in Idaho Falls.

St. Anthony police began investigating on April 28 after medical officials reported a pregnant child, and Guadalupe Gutierrez-Juarez, 37, of St. Anthony, was arrested the same day, Police Chief James Smith said.

“We had good information from witnesses,” Smith said.

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Authorities said Gutierrez-Juarez did not have legal documentation to live in the United States. His home town and nationality were not immediately clear, but police said they had received no complaints about him before investigating the pregnancy.

Does arse McCain still want to grant “work visas”? This one didn't have a record?

Will they EVER build a FENCE and keep these undocumented monsters out of the U.S.? It is a PRIVILEDGE to become a citizen here - not a RIGHT. We need to know who is coming and going. We certainly don't need to import pedophiles.

21 posted on 05/08/2008 8:13:33 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: panaxanax
No, the baby is innocent. Don’t murder the baby. The baby had no choice. Let the baby live and be adopted. ALL babies should be loved. How they were conceived is not something they had any control over - don't punish the innocent baby via an abortion. Please ... .
22 posted on 05/08/2008 8:15:08 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: panaxanax

Instead, remove this guys penis and testicles. HE is the one that needs PUNISHMENT or ideally capital punishment.


23 posted on 05/08/2008 8:16:14 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: pillut48

I’m with you, this is still no case for an abortion. My heart hurts for that little girl, and I pray both children can be raised in a healing environment.


24 posted on 05/08/2008 8:28:54 AM PDT by republicanequestrian
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To: pillut48

Chances are that a ten year old who is physically mature enough to conceive has been sexualized at a very early age and, in my opinion, most likely does not have much family support.


25 posted on 05/08/2008 8:41:33 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- new euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: nmh

Amen!


26 posted on 05/08/2008 8:43:02 AM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: pillut48
We were in Idaho not long ago, near Boise. The place was crawling with illegals.

Who would have ever thought?

27 posted on 05/08/2008 8:43:58 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: pillut48
Suspected Illegal Immigrant Charged With Rape, Impregnating 10-Year-Old Girl,

Same thing just happened in Buckeye, AZ

And the Alien gave her an STD as well.

Isn't that special?

28 posted on 05/08/2008 8:55:43 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: pillut48

Take all the illegal immigrant children and put them in foster care!


29 posted on 05/08/2008 8:59:44 AM PDT by Sleeping Hampster
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; AuntB; Tennessee Nana

37-year old man goes after 10-year old?

Guy’s a pedophile.

These illegals should be considered a cult——they congregate together, isolate themselves from US mainstream culture, the women having their babies are underage, and they all live off the state.

Can illegal mothers verify who the fathers are of all these anchor babies on the US gravy train?

It’s time for the government to step in.


30 posted on 05/08/2008 9:48:12 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: Liz

“Can illegal mothers verify who the fathers are of all these anchor babies on the US gravy train?”

Surely you jest.


31 posted on 05/08/2008 10:10:34 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because it's hard to blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: AuntB

LOL——yup.


32 posted on 05/08/2008 10:15:59 AM PDT by Liz (Without the brave, there'd be no land of the free. Senator Fred Thompson)
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To: Retired Greyhound; pillut48; nmh

I respectfully disagree with you all. The agony and memories that this little 10 year old girl had to go through during childbirth will last forever. An abortion could have been “hidden” under other medical procedures.

There are times for abortion and this was one of those times. Sorry we disagree, but.........think of the little girl and not the baby this time.

Question: When would an abortion be recommended?


33 posted on 05/08/2008 10:38:34 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: nmh

>>”Instead, remove this guys penis and testicles.”<<

You’re much kinder than I am.


34 posted on 05/08/2008 10:40:22 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: panaxanax

tough call. Either experience is traumatic, on top of the trauma of being raped.

Her life is changed either way. I still don’t like the abortion idea unless they deem her life to be in danger.


35 posted on 05/08/2008 10:46:23 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: pillut48

>>”You misunderstood me—I am 100% *against* abortion, for ANY reason.”<<

No, I didn’t misunderstand you. I do question your statement “for ANY reason.”

>>”It is by the grace of God that this child is alive!”<<

Which child? It’s time like this when I question why a kind and loving God would ever have allowed this to happen to an innocent little child of 10 years old.

Please don’t flame me with “who am I to question”, “it’s God’s will” etc.


36 posted on 05/08/2008 10:48:51 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: panaxanax

Having endured almost 14 years of infertility (6 before finally achieving motherhood, and now 7 years later now with this pregnancy) by the grace of God :*), I have learned that NO baby’s life is an ‘accident’, there’s just no such animal. Each and every life if precious and we should treat it as such. IMO, I cannot justify ANY reason for murdering any little innocent unborn life, although I realize most people think ‘for the mother’s health’ or ‘mother is a victim of rape or incest’ is an adequate reason to destroy that life/lives. If, God forbid, a choice had to be made between saving me and the babies I am carrying, it is a no brainer for me—save the babies!! Realistically though I know a lot of people discount the unborn as ‘not really people until they are born’ and they would sacrifice the baby/ies without a second thought ‘for the mother’s sake’.

I am so sorry for what this little 10 year old went through, both rape and being pregnant and delivering at this young age, and I also burn with rage against the animal that did this to her. Again, as far as religion and faith go, I have learned to depend on God and I trust Him no matter what happens, both good and bad. I’m not going to flame you for your unbelief in God, that’s not my place. All I know is that God’s fingerprints are all over this little girl and her baby, and who knows what wonderful things He has planned for them both in the future?


37 posted on 05/08/2008 11:52:51 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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To: pillut48

bump


38 posted on 05/08/2008 11:53:25 AM PDT by VOA
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To: panaxanax

The little girl has gone thru enough already. Abortion leaves scars for life. There are two victims here. Why should one have to die?


39 posted on 05/08/2008 4:15:50 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: panaxanax

There is never any reason for abortion. Rarely a mother or the child must be seperated, when their life is in danger. When that happens though everything is done to save both.


40 posted on 05/08/2008 4:18:33 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: pillut48
>>”Having endured almost 14 years of infertility (6 before finally achieving motherhood, and now 7 years later now with this pregnancy) by the grace of God :*)”<<

I suspect there was some sort of medical intervention in order for you to achieve your pregnancy status after such a long period of being infertile? If so, it is the by the grace of the doctors and advanced medical technology that you have become pregnant with your “babies I am carrying”, which is often the case with artificial insemination, hormone therapy, etc. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I admire your convictions, but I disagree with you when you say that there is absolutely no reason for a therapeutic abortion. Again, the emotional and physical scars will long outlast the memories of a painless abortion given under the auspices of another medical “procedure”. It is wrong for children to give birth to children.

Placing the emotions of an expectant mother aside, put one of your little girls in the same situation. Being raped by the most despicable vile animal you can envision. Then, you making the decision that she should endure the pain involved in carrying to term and giving birth to the child because it is God's will? The guilt would kill me if I thought that I had the power to allow something that could have been prevented.

It's sort of like the question I often ask myself, “why do babies get brain cancer?”, “why do innocent children suffer the worst imaginable pain for years from incurable diseases”? I cannot fathom the idea that God would allow that to happen to someone he supposedly chose to be born in the first place.

I guess you'd have had to have been there to understand why I question this.

41 posted on 05/11/2008 8:53:39 AM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: panaxanax
Yes, my living children are the results of IVF treatments. And respectfully, no, not achieved by the 'grace of the doctors'. The only grace came from God. :*)

Thank you for your reasoning. We shall have to agree to disagree, since abortion and the word "therapeutic" are a million miles apart from one another to me...I've had several miscarriages and gotten to hold my lost children, so I know personally how precious each and every little life is, regardless of the age of the mother or the situation/circumstances that brought about those precious lives, IMO. You question God, which we all should do about such things, I have found some answers for myself over the years...I hope someday you will find the answers you are obviously looking for with these very hard life issues. Take care.
42 posted on 05/11/2008 10:29:16 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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