Posted on 05/07/2008 7:24:59 PM PDT by doug from upland
Edited on 05/07/2008 7:35:03 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan Democratic leaders have settled on a plan to give presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton 69 delegates and Barack Obama 59 as a way to get the delegates seated at the national convention.
Clinton won the Jan. 15 Michigan primary and was to get 73 delegates under state party rules. Obama was to get 55 delegates.
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You of all people realize that Hillary is going to be the Democrat nominee.
Don’t you?
This is weird. As I read this, they are by fiat deciding to reduce Hillary’s lead to get their delegates seated? Is that right? That’s so far from democracy I need confirmation.
I don’t know it for certain. Her real hope is revealing a deep, dark secret of Obama that gets the Supers to jump ship. She will release it at the time for optimum damage.
Not much less democratic than holding a primary without all the candidates on the ballot.
I don't see how Obama was to get 55 delegates under state party rules. His name was not on the ballot, and he received no votes.
There should have been 55 UNCOMMITTED delegates, which would have been picked by the party apparatus, not chosen to be Obama delegates.
I also like how later the Obama people said something like "we realise we have to be generous and give Clinton some delegates".
There is no way Obama would have won Michigan.
Anyway, we have to hope this plan is rejected, so we can have more turmoil.
Yes, that’s why I put it in the headline. :)
The state party just made it up. They have no hope of getting it past Dean.
Clinton is starting to make FL and MI part of her daily talking points.
It’s going like clockwork.
HOW does BHO get any delegates from Michigan, when he withdrew before the primary???
That is an interesting question.
Yeah, I don’t see how Clinton goes along with this. She was the only name on the ballot. Unless they can prove Obama got a certain percentage by write-ins, she ought to get all the delegates.
In an earlier post, I was wondering if the RNC will lift the sanctions on those states too?
Did not think that he withdrew in the usual sense. I thought that he was just playing by the rules of the Democrat Party.
Disgusting is using the name Bill Clinton and the word sink in two consecutive sentences.......
Wow! We can just make it up as we go along. SELECTED AND NOT ELECTED!
Looks like the chickens are coming home to roost.
Only because Hillary cheated and didn't take her name off when the others agreed to take theirs off.
Well, he's been bandied about as the black candidate... how about Hill give him equal time as a white candidate. After all, the rats are the fairness doctrine folk. How about: He's white and sleeps with a black woman? Hill could only run this ad half the time, but...
Now now, BHO took his own name off the ballot. Lol - HRC can’t help it if he’s a bad poker player.
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What number will the DNC roulette wheel stop on?
Uh. No. How did you arive at that math?
If she had it seems to me she would have already used it so she could win outright and have more time to unite the party before the main contest. I see no logical reason for her to have held back.
Typical. Leftists want to change (their own) rules in mid-stream. Like I’ve seen in print a number of times; if they can’t even nominate someone, how can they run this Country? If the “average American” paid any attention to this Stuper delegate nonsense, they wouldn’t be voting for a party that can undermine their popular vote. </reality> Oh, never mind.
At least the dimRATS are consistent: just like their views on taxes: reward the cheaters and screw the honest payers...
I wonder how they arrived @ 54% for HRC?
How about President Gary Coleman?
What if she releases it at the last minute before the convention and he doesn’t have time to answer it?
She really thought last night's primary results were going to be the opposite of what they turned out to be: Big win in Indiana and a close loss in NC.
If there is something out there on Obama, she's dusting her fingerprints off the story before it hits the fan.
She's not giving up this nomination. As she said today: "an election can change in a day".
Just a little American Idol drama...the black Idol Syesha, who hysterically cried after her song last night explaining that it was about the civil rights movement and comparing it to her personal Idol journey of change (rolling eyes), just ticked off half of the country tonight by making political commentary. During the elimination segment, she again says her song was all about change in 2008 because we might have our first female or black president. Wonder how many fans have voters remorse tonight.
I’ve been a political junkie since I was 16 and worked for Barry Goldwater. This is the most incredible political race of my lifetime. A year ago, the witch thought she was going to be coronated. Her gang thought they would get an electoral landslide.
In the height of arrogance and hubris, you will love this clip with perky Katie - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xGsX-R_ZTQ
classic
I’m quite familiar with Michigan and there are no leaders.
There are democrat liars, frauds, con-men, charlatans, cheats, dead ducks, socialists, welfare bums, turds, maggots, snakes, scoundrels, thieves, fops, lizards, crumbs, creeps, bottom-feeders, pole-cats, dickheads, buttheads, coelacanths, but no leaders.
That's my thinking too.
Hillary holding back until after all the primaries are finished sounds like an Operation Chaos wet dream.
Any speculation as to when that time would be?
So if it’s 73-55 in Michigan and 105-67 in Florida Hillary gains 56 votes on Mr. Smooth Talker.
Perhaps just before the convention so he doesn’t have time to answer it. After all, that isn’t too late. Supers can change their minds at any time, and even the pledged delegates are not bound on the first ballot. If Hillary went all the way back to kindergarten, she may well have something on him.
I have no clue what Florida will do. Obama is going to want half the delegates.
I sacrificed my vote yesterday in order to get rid of her.
She still won. It will take me a long time to forgive Rush for helping her.
I know what you mean.
I fully expect that if Clinton remains in this race, and I see no reason for her to drop out now, that the final tally will be within 100 delegates pledged.
What will happen with the supers does not look good for her, and I do not believe for one second in any “October surprise.”
I also do not believe that all of this vast expenditure is for 2012.
That gives any mortal too much credit, and this is played for keeps in the real and now.
I'm waiting for her name to appear on the ticket as VP, and that is the only real reason that I can see for her to remain in this.
Actually, I would not be surprised to hear of her pulling a Kerry type of deal with McCain if she doesn't get her way onto the ticket in some position, nor would I be in the least surprised to hear McCain accept it.
THAT would be a delicious irony.
VP for her, even under Hussein, would still be a stunning achievement.
Albeit, she wouldn't get the top slot, but she would be the first female VP in history and would be well positioned to further her political career and keep her and Bill in the spotlight.
Don't laugh. I believe that a ticket with her on it will win with any party.
I sincerely hope that the damage done is too great for that to happen. - Or McCain is toast.
>I have no clue what Florida will do
Nobody here in Florida does either, Doug, but one thing is for sure:
As far as the dems are concerned - and I have seen and heard this exact phrase - this is Hillary country, and Obama would have been crushed into the dirt here.
I can’t see him getting half of any count here, nor the State democrat party agreeing to that split
Hussein had better up his life insurance policy if that were to be the case. He would only be a heart beat away from her obsession.
That's not a good spot.
YOUTUBE SING ALONG - Who’d Taste Barack’s Food - http://youtube.com/watch?v=lsZ9yOnfMYU
Four votes can be a lot. If 4 Guamanians had flipped to Hillary a few days ago during the voting, she would have beaten Obama there. New Hampshire's 4 electoral votes in 2000 were enough to spare the US a Gore Presidency.
Shoes keep dropping...but it turns out that Hillary is a centipede.
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