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Doormen kicked Lee to death (Albanian in UK the main aggressor)
Romford Recorder ^ | May 2, 2008

Posted on 05/05/2008 7:04:28 PM PDT by joan

A GROUP of doormen stamped and kicked a man to death after refusing him entry into a club for looking too young, a court heard on Monday.

Lee Rayner, 30, of Franklin Road, Hornchurch, who was due to get married, was beaten and trampled as he lay helpless on the ground following a confrontation with doormen at the Opium Lounge in North Street, Romford, on June 16 last year.

The blows were so savage his skull was almost fractured in half and he later died from brain damage.

Doormen Johnives Kalu, 23, and Albanian Rustem Geca, 24, are standing trial at the Old Bailey accused of the murder of Mr Rayner.

Other doormen from the club have already pleaded guilty to attacking Mr Rayner's brother John, 21, who was also badly beaten in St Edwards Way.

The court heard the brothers were on a night out with four of their friends and by the time they got to the Opium Lounge, they were drunk. Prosecutor Anthony Leonard QC said: "Lee Rayner and his friend had queued to get into the club and when they got there the doormen asked if they were 21. They couldn't produce anything other than a banker's card and as a result were refused entry.

"Because they were in fact aged 27 and 30, this caused some resentment."

The court heard the group began to argue and shout at the bouncers and one - believed to be Lee Rayner - spat at female bouncer Charlotte Paul.

"That was the catalyst which prompted the gathering of the doormen," said Mr Leonard.

Although Mr Rayner's group then left and made their way down St Edwards Way, the furious doormen decided to avenge their female colleague, the court heard.

"Geca was particularly angry about the spitting and one of the other doormen had had to usher him into the club to get him away," said the prosecutor.

The court was told Geca and Kalu rounded up other doormen from the bar and set off in pursuit of Mr Rayner and his friends.

They eventually caught up with them in St Edwards Way, a few minutes later, it was said.

The prosecutor said: "Lee Rayner and his friends scattered as soon as they saw the doormen. Both brothers were attacked. John Rayner fell to the ground and was kicked and punched.

"At almost the same time his brother was attacked. Geca punched him twice in the head. Kalu then kneed him in the stomach and he fell to the ground.

"While on the ground his head was submitted to such force that it caused his skull to fracture almost the entire circumference. By far the most likely cause was that his head was stamped on."

The court heard how John Rayner escaped his attackers and ran to help Lee. He found his brother unconscious, blood pouring from his eyes and head.

John Rayner was attacked by Samuel Davison, 38, from Barking, and part-time doorman and postman Andrew Houchelli, 37, of Pettits Lane, Romford, who have since pleaded guilty to actual bodily harm and will be sentenced at the end of the trial.

Kalu, from Beckton, and Geca, from Dagenham, deny murder. The trial continues.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: albanians; aliens; immigration

1 posted on 05/05/2008 7:04:28 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan

BUMP!


2 posted on 05/05/2008 7:06:43 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: joan

Don’t spit on doormen


3 posted on 05/05/2008 7:07:09 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: joan

This is just disturbing.


4 posted on 05/05/2008 7:07:42 PM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: kronos77; Bokababe; FormerLib; F-117A
Geca is the Albanian - he is the one that rounded up the doormen to go after the men:

"Geca was particularly angry about the spitting and one of the other doormen had had to usher him into the club to get him away," said the prosecutor. The court was told Geca and Kalu rounded up other doormen from the bar and set off in pursuit of Mr Rayner and his friends.

They eventually caught up with them in St Edwards Way, a few minutes later, it was said.

The prosecutor said: "Lee Rayner and his friends scattered as soon as they saw the doormen. Both brothers were attacked. John Rayner fell to the ground and was kicked and punched.

"At almost the same time his brother was attacked. Geca punched him twice in the head. Kalu then kneed him in the stomach and he fell to the ground.

"While on the ground his head was submitted to such force that it caused his skull to fracture almost the entire circumference. By far the most likely cause was that his head was stamped on."

The court heard how John Rayner escaped his attackers and ran to help Lee. He found his brother unconscious, blood pouring from his eyes and head.

Wish they'd lock up the Albanian animal for a long time, but instead they will coddle him and he will be out, even if convicted, in a few years.
5 posted on 05/05/2008 7:07:50 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan

A multi cultural paradise.


6 posted on 05/05/2008 7:09:15 PM PDT by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: joan

This is not an Albanian problem. It’s an English gang and alcohol problem. There have been quite a few drunks who have kicked or punched respectable and innocent people to death recently. Nationality had nothing to do with this murder.


7 posted on 05/05/2008 7:11:12 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: joan

isn’t diversity wonderful ? the UK is a real melting pot now


8 posted on 05/05/2008 7:12:09 PM PDT by KTM rider (McCain '08, ....better than the alternative)
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To: pissant
No the lesson to be learned is to beware of making Albanians angry. Because in this next recent case it is Albanians attacking the doormen instead of an Albanian doorman attacking others. The Albanians are very aggressive quite often in the UK. They either await to attack or run after those who they feel have insulted them.

Pair took revenge on club's doormen (Albanian attackers)

TWO friends who took revenge on nightclub doormen after being thrown out have been banned from the premises and handed suspended jail sentences.

Besim Dobrushi, 23, and 21-year-old Dritan Canaj were ejected from the Soul Tree Club, in Cambridge city centre, late on November 19 after a fight broke out. But the friends, who were drunk, were intent on taking their anger out on the bouncers at closing time, the city's crown court was told.

Dobrushi - who punched a barman before being thrown out - and Canaj waited outside and, after getting into a row with doormen, took turns wielding a spanner at them.

During a melee as clubbers were leaving, two doormen received minor injuries, Sara Walker, for the prosecution, told the court.

Dobrushi, an Albanian who lives in High Street, Great Cambourne and works as a guard on a building site, and Canaj, a Kosovan of Harvey Goodwin Gardens, Cambridge, both admitted a charge of affray.

Passing sentence, Judge Anthony Bate said: "The injuries received were relatively superficial, but the most serious aspect of this was your willingness to arm yourselves at the scene with a spanner."

He imposed an exclusion order on both men, banning them from the club, and sentenced each to six months' imprisonment, suspended for two years, as well as 150 hours of unpaid community work and 18 months probation supervision.

Dobrushi, who was in breach of a previous four-month suspended sentence imposed by magistrates last year for an assault on a woman in the city's market square, was given an additional 90 hours' community work to carry out.

The suspension of the custodial element of the previous sentence was also extended to two years.


And this now 21-year-old Dritan Canaj of Cambridge was on trial in 2005 (when he was 18) for the rape and sex slavery of a Russian woman but the trial collapsed due to the defense team last minute "witness."
9 posted on 05/05/2008 7:17:35 PM PDT by joan
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To: GAB-1955
Albanians for their small population in the UK are in the news very often for their severe attacks, large thefts (robbery schemes, armed robbery), involvement in brothels/human trafficking, and so on.

I ain't yet read of an ethnic Serb (who number greater in Britain) being involved in any violent attack on the Brits or any brothels there.

And yeah there are gangs, criminals and scumbags in Brit, but the Albanians seem to gravitate towards these people and are often in their groups too.

10 posted on 05/05/2008 7:20:46 PM PDT by joan
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To: joan
There'd be much less of this sort of thing in UK if folks up to no-good could anticipate there'd be armed people around and about.

There'd definitely be fewer Albanians with anger management problems.

11 posted on 05/05/2008 7:26:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: joan

No need for guns in this hell hole. Just a swift kick will do the work of a gun and it is cheaper.

So much for Utopian gun control.


12 posted on 05/05/2008 7:32:22 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: joan
... who was also badly beaten in St Edwards Way.

I wonder exactly how St. Edwards delivered his beatings.

13 posted on 05/05/2008 7:41:54 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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To: KTM rider

“..the UK is a real melting pot now”

Not more so than the US is.


14 posted on 05/05/2008 7:54:36 PM PDT by 353FMG (Don't make the mistake to think that Government is a Friend of the People)
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To: muawiyah
"There'd definitely be fewer Albanians with anger management problems."

There's rather a spate of Albanian anger management problems revealed in the UK news lately. But don't expect that to stop the Britain and British in general with pushing the Albanian agendas over the Serbs, as the Brits have done the last decade:

Worker ran colleague over - and knocked him out with broom

Published Date: 02 May 2008
By Rob Middleton

A fork-lift truck driver who knocked out a work colleague with a broom at a Northampton distribution warehouse has been jailed.

Fation Limaj, 27, was employed at the Morrisons warehouse in Swan Valley, Northampton, when he got involved in a row with co-worker Mohamed Warssame, on June 26, last year.

Rebecca Wade, prosecuting at Northampton Crown Court, said the argument started after Limaj had run over Mr Warssame's foot with his fork-lift truck.

She said: "The argument was thought to have finished so Mr Warssame got on his fork lift truck and was picking up a load from one of the aisles when he saw the defendant and had to do an emergency stop.

"The defendant then took a broom and hit him over the head, causing him to fall to the floor."

Mr Warssame was knocked out briefly and suffered a fractured finger and a six-centimetre cut which left a scar on his head.

Limaj, a Kosovan [one of the dear Kosovans which Clinton "saved" according to the liberal press] of Thorn Hill, Briar Hill pleaded guilty to inflicting actual bodily harm and was jailed for 10 months.

Judge Richard Bray said: "I have to sentence you for violence against a fellow employee who you ran over, then hit him with a broom. There must be a custodial sentence."

Tony Davies, mitigating, said Limaj had previously been stabbed in the eye, losing the sight, which had made him over-react to perceived threats.


Limaj had previously been stabbed in the eye, losing the sight, which had made him over-react to perceived threats.

So he has a history of getting into violent fights and perhaps it was a fellow Albanian who stabbed him in the eye.

15 posted on 05/05/2008 7:58:47 PM PDT by joan
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To: GAB-1955
This is not an Albanian problem. It’s an English gang and alcohol problem. There have been quite a few drunks who have kicked or punched respectable and innocent people to death recently. Nationality had nothing to do with this murder.

I have to agree. This thing transcends nationality.

16 posted on 05/05/2008 8:00:35 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: joan

So what’s the penalty for murder in the UK? Ten years?


17 posted on 05/05/2008 8:06:44 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: joan
Albanians for their small population in the UK are in the news very often for their severe attacks...

Ten years ago I was in Italy and told that the the Italian mob was afraid of the Albanians who had taken over all the vice rackets --- drugs and hookers. They considered the Albanians crazy and to be avoided.

18 posted on 05/05/2008 8:12:53 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: joan
Beware the doormen at the Opium Lounge! With a name like that, you have to expect trouble.

More seriously, these guys need to spend a great deal of time behind bars.

19 posted on 05/05/2008 8:42:41 PM PDT by meyer (Still conservative, no longer Republican)
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To: joan
Albanians for their small population in the UK are in the news very often for their severe attacks, large thefts (robbery schemes, armed robbery), involvement in brothels/human trafficking, and so on.

They are the same in US, unfortunately. Besides, what's not mentioned in the article is the fact that Albania is a Muslim state. You draw your own conclusions!
20 posted on 05/05/2008 9:01:14 PM PDT by FORTRUTHONLY (Easy as 3.14159265358979323846...)
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To: joan

What I don’t understand is how the Albanians get to stay in the UK? This particular character was employed but how? I can understand Poles and Romanians etc. they’re part of the EU now, so they’re entitled to live and work in Britain, I can understand the descendants of Commonwealth subjects like West Indians and Pakistanis and Indians, but Albanians?

Albania didn’t even permit foreign travel up to twenty years ago so I cannot see how there can be any legitimate reason for Albanians living and working in the UK so how did this guy not only enter the country but also get a job there?

Maybe I’m being incredibly stupid but I can’t see how a man who is employed as a doorman could convince the immigration authorities that he is an asylum seeker or a student.

Is no one checking these things any more in the UK?


21 posted on 05/05/2008 9:04:27 PM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: joan

It sure would be nice to know where Romford, Barking, Hornchurch, etc. are. Sounds English or Australian. But who knows—could be Connecticut, Maine-—???


22 posted on 05/05/2008 10:07:07 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: joan
A GROUP of doormen stamped and kicked a man to death after refusing him entry into a club for looking too young, a court heard on Monday.

Isn't this the same country that always sneers at America's draconian liquor laws?

23 posted on 05/05/2008 10:36:06 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Home Counties sort of places, they are..


24 posted on 05/05/2008 10:41:19 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: joan

Don’t have an ID for the club “doorman” (bouncer)? Go home, get it, and come back. Or leave and make sure you have it the next time you show up there. Spitting on the bouncer isn’t going to get you into any club. What is so difficult?


25 posted on 05/06/2008 4:20:48 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: dighton; aculeus; martin_fierro
The court heard the group began to argue and shout at the bouncers and one - believed to be Lee Rayner - spat at female bouncer Charlotte Paul. "That was the catalyst which prompted the gathering of the doormen," said Mr Leonard.

Gathering of the Doormen ping.

26 posted on 05/06/2008 4:39:31 AM PDT by Ezekiel
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To: joan

Back in college, many, many moons ago, we were a couple of freshman having a blast at one of the local bars when somebody threw a cup of beer. One of the bartenders accused my buddy, TJ of throwing the beer (he did not) and called the bouncers over and they proceeded to escort him out of the bar. TJ balked at leaving and pleaded with the guys that they got the wrong guy and showed him that he even still had his beer in his hand, but to no avail.

TJ was an 18 year old blond kid from Long Island, NY and stood about 5’11” and about 165-170 lbs. The bouncers (2 of them) were each about 6’4” and 280-300 lbs. (They were actually varsity linemen on the football team). They picked TJ up under his arms and walked him out the door and tossed him onto the sidewalk. TJ came back to them and kept telling them that he didn’t throw any beer and they have the wrong guy, etc... The one bouncer he was pleading his case to was listening but refusing to budge, just standing there with his arms folded against his chest. The second bouncer who happened to be wearing glasses, was a little more agitated and agressive and decided that he had enough and pushed past the first bouncer and started yelling at TJ to get the f*** out and started backing TJ up across the sidewalk getting in TJ’s face and jabbing his finger in TJ’s chest, and threatening to kick TJ’s @$$ all the way down the street.

TJ started getting a little P.O.ed but steadily tried to stay in control of himself. You see, little did the bouncers know, but TJ was an advanced degreed black belt in a couple of martial arts (I forget which ones but one was Aikido(sp?) and I think there were two others, can’t recall exactly and I’m not terribly knowledgable about martial arts).

Anyhow, the bouncer with the glasses had gotten so wound up that he pushed and pushed TJ until he was backed up against a car and he kept leaning into him so that TJ was bending backwards over the fender when TJ finally slammed the guy back in the chest with both hands to push him away. TJ looked at the guy and told him that he was warning him and that he had enough. I cringed when I saw TJ start flexing his fingers. The bouncer noticed also and laughed and asked TJ if he wanted “to go” with the bouncer.

Seriously, TJ said, “Why not? It’s your funeral.”

The small crowd of bystanders waiting to get in all let out a “ooooooohhhh...” and I remember one voice calling out to the bouncer, “Aw, dude, I guess he told you!”

The bouncer came at TJ and tried to take a swing but before he could get his arm half way extended, TJ’s fist landed right between the bouncer’s eyes, snapping his glasses in half and splitting the guys nose wide open. He dropped like a sack of cement spilling blood all over the sidewalk. The other bouncer just stood there and his jaw dropped. I pushed through the bystanders and yelled to TJ, “Holy SH*T! Let’s get outta here!” as he we high-tailed it back to the dorms. The rest of the night TJ kept saying to himself, “Holy sh*t, I can’t believe that just happened, Holy sh*t, I can’t believe that just happened, Holy sh*t...”

I told him, “Dang, if I ever piss you off, please, just tell me... okay?”


27 posted on 05/06/2008 5:42:25 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: GAB-1955
“This is not an Albanian problem.”

Sadly, it is an Albanian problem. Albanian culture breeds extremely aggressive criminals. Why do you think Albanians control so much of the European sex trade and drug cartels? It isn't accident.

28 posted on 05/06/2008 8:58:19 AM PDT by monday
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To: monday

I’m in no way excusing the Albanian...certainly waaaay over the line. Having said that, in this day and age of HIV/AIDS, and other fluid-born pathogens, spitting in somebody’s face is a far more serious matter than it used to be.


29 posted on 05/06/2008 9:06:22 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: monday

Albanians are not welcome anywhere in Europe. And besides their penchant for violence and criminality, their blood feuds with each other are legendary.

Families will carry on feuds with other indefinitely.

But don’t say it has anything to do with Islam.


30 posted on 05/06/2008 3:27:38 PM PDT by romanesq
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To: Arthur McGowan
where Romford, Barking, Hornchurch, etc. are

I forgot to add to the title the information that this took place in the UK. Those towns you list are all in East London, England, more precisely.

Romford is a large suburban town in East London, England[1] and the principal settlement of the London Borough of Havering. It is located 14.1 miles (22.7 km) north east of Charing Cross and is one of the major metropolitan centres identified in the London Plan.[1] Romford was in the county of Essex before the creation of Greater London in 1965,[2] and was one of the three parishes which formed the ancient Liberty of Havering.

Barking is a suburban town in East London, England and the main district of the London Borough of Barking and Dagenham. It is a retail and commercial centre situated in the west of the borough and 9.1 miles (14.6 km) east of Charing Cross.

Hornchurch is a town in the London Borough of Havering in East London, England. It is a suburban development located 15.2 miles (24.5 km) east north-east of Charing Cross. Hornchurch is home to the Queen's Theatre, a modern 500-seat theatre located close to the town centre. Havering Sixth Form College is located in the town.

31 posted on 05/06/2008 7:58:13 PM PDT by joan
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To: monday
I can understand that. The Albanians have a culture that encourages vendetta and has little regard for the rule of law. So do Sicilians and Neapolitans, but no one condemns these people as a whole. Instead, these postings seem to come from people who are angry over Kosovo. Kosovo is the raw wound that will not go away on either side, and it's up to the rest of Europe to make sure that war does not break out there. Eventually these wounds will scar and perhaps there might even be reconciliation, as there is tentatively in Cyprus. However, it does not imply every Albanian is a criminal, and no one is willing to take the step to say “Because Albanians are criminals, Albanians should not have an independent state.”
32 posted on 05/07/2008 3:32:48 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: GAB-1955
” and no one is willing to take the step to say “Because Albanians are criminals, Albanians should not have an independent state.”

Albanians do have an independent state. It's called Albania. They don't deserve it, because they are morons, but it exists. What can you say about a country where just about everyone lost their life savings on Ponzi schemes? Bizarre doesn't even come close.

33 posted on 05/07/2008 7:16:12 AM PDT by monday
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To: monday

I’d say that living for 50 years under extreme Communism made everyone extremely naive about how free market societies worked.


34 posted on 05/07/2008 5:25:23 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: GAB-1955
The Albanians have their own state Albania with a population of 3.2 million. There has been no official census, but Albanians are claimed to be over 90% of 2 million in Kosovo. Some argue that the real population of Kosovo is significantly less.

The Kurds have like 15 million in Turkey and more millions in Iraq, Iran, etc. yet they don't even have ONE state.

So why do the Albanians get an extra state - especially one which involved gradually chasing out the Serbs for decades (1980's media had articles on Serbs fleeing and violence being perpetuated by Kosovo Albanians who'd also sabotage electrical plants and other things to cause problems), and then finally (and during so-called "peace") ethically cleansing and keeping cleansed 200-300 thousands Serbs, Montenegrins, Roma and other minorities (including a few hundred Jews and Croats), systematically blasting out over 140 churches and monasteries (under the eyes of NATO/UN), destroying Serbian cemeteries, burning 10s of thousands of Serb and Roma homes, while confiscating many of the rest, etc.

What makes these backwards people worthy of having other nations come in and kill so they can get and extra one? And then put them on financial life support to the tune of billions over the span of a decade to keep it existing? It is not independent enough to stand on its own.

And it was they who initiated the killings and terrorism in the first place. Their design was to attack the police and draw reprisals to get the media attention. They also kidnapped and killed civilians, including Serb children.

Their getting Kosovo rewards terrorism and encourages them to eventually go after more (Macedonia, southern Serbia, perhaps Montenegro, part of Greece). They did attack in southern Serbia and Northern Macedonia. Their attacks were aided by Albanians in Kosovo and the injured went back to Kosovo to have their injuries treated by the NATO forces.

35 posted on 05/07/2008 7:58:52 PM PDT by joan
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