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Families cope with Pilgrim's arrests (boo hoo for illegals)
Longview News Journal ^

Posted on 05/05/2008 11:14:47 AM PDT by mnehring

MOUNT PLEASANT — Friends and family of the 46 people taken to jail by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in April met Sunday with supporters offering legal and emotional support.

The federal government moved on Pilgrim's Pride Corp. facilities in Mount Pleasant and in four other states on April 16, gathering some 400 employees on various identity theft charges. A year-long investigation produced the arrests.

It also produced a vacuum of information among much of the Latin immigrant community that feeds Pilgrim's Mount Pleasant workforce of about 3,300 people. That lack of information drew an attorney from the Mexican Consulate in Dallas, representatives from Catholic Charities and the League of United Latin American Citizens, and a handful of immigration attorneys to Mount Pleasant's Tennison Memorial Church.

"Everybody feels bad, because they have relatives or they have friends (who were affected)," the Rev. Jaime Lopez said before the hourlong meeting at the church. "We have four children who were in care for one week at (a member's) house."

Longview lawyer Jose Sanchez said the local people arrested in the operation are being held without bond in the Gregg County Jail pending trials that might begin in June.

Several people gathered around Cindy Wilkerson, who ministers to women in the Longview jail. She said the eight women she has met who were arrested in the federal probe are unlike most prisoners she visits.

"I see women that have had a hard life," she said. "I'm not used to seeing such beautiful, physically beautiful, women. They are so different. They don't really know what's going to happen to them."

Bilingual inmates are translating for the federal prisoners, since jailers do not know Spanish, she said.

"The nurses don't speak Spanish," she added. "It's just a real problem."

The women and men face up to five years in federal lockup and fines of up to $250,000 if convicted on the identity theft charges. They also face deportation action, officials said.

Teen-ager Jesus Arroyo, a student at Mount Pleasant's Chapel Hill High School, said he and his brother were removed from school on April 16 and told their parents had been arrested.

"And they said it was because my parents didn't tell them where my uncle is, so they arrested my parents," the 15-year-old said, tears running down his cheeks. "They just threw my mom in jail, and she's pregnant."

Arroyo's parents were released after about a week, during which their children stayed with their parents' friends, Arroyo said.

Church member Liz Newman said her heart goes out to the family members of those caught in the arrest net.

"They don't know which way to turn, they don't know who to trust," Newman said. "Some people see this only in black and white, but my own teen-aged sons, who experienced this, did not get a good feeling out of it at all. ... I myself saw it for the first time (on April 16), and until you actually see it and see a family experience it, you have no concept or idea what it is to live in fear like that."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: identitytheft; illegals; pilgrims; sobstory; texas
..of course, they have yet to have a story about all the people are coping whose identities were stolen by the illegals. This is the third or fourth story we've had about how we are supposed to feel sorry for these criminals getting arrested.
1 posted on 05/05/2008 11:14:47 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

A great story. I’d like to also extend happy Cinco de who the hell cares ...


2 posted on 05/05/2008 11:17:15 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: mnehrling

Happy Cinco de Mayo. If you’d stayed in Meheeco, your legal country, then you and your families wouldn’t be having these problems.

}:-)4


3 posted on 05/05/2008 11:19:18 AM PDT by Moose4 (http://moosedroppings.wordpress.com -- Because 20 million self-important blogs just aren't enough.)
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To: Moose4
..or heck, if they just chose the legal route to come here and not committed identity theft and fraud... actions have consequences.
4 posted on 05/05/2008 11:20:36 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling
Did you say Pilgrim?

5 posted on 05/05/2008 11:21:45 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: mnehrling

“The nurses don’t speak Spanish,” she added. “It’s just a real problem.”

Yeah, but not our problem.

Come to this country, Enter legally, speak our language.

Period.


6 posted on 05/05/2008 11:24:14 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)
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To: mnehrling; mgc1122

My wifes family has been in what is now New Mexico for generations. They have seen the Spanish, French, Mexicans come and go, but now they are Americans and nothing riles them up more than the illegals who keep sneaking arcross the border. Cinco de Mayo is totally meaningless to them, (other than a good reason to have a margarita.)


7 posted on 05/05/2008 11:24:23 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: mnehrling

“The nurses don’t speak Spanish,” she added. “It’s just a real problem.”

IT’S THEIR PROBLEM !


8 posted on 05/05/2008 11:26:21 AM PDT by traumer
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To: roaddog727

I call BS. I live in this area and every LEO organization and hospital has to hire bilingual people to handle all the freeloaders that get run through the system.


9 posted on 05/05/2008 11:30:09 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: mnehrling
..of course, they have yet to have a story about all the people are coping whose identities were stolen by the illegals

Don't hold your breath waiting for such a story..........SIGH

10 posted on 05/05/2008 11:30:25 AM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: mgc1122
Well, since I'm a compassionaite conservative, I'd be willing to give anyone willing to divulge names and testify against identity thieves an amnesty consisting of:

  1. A free taxpayer funded plane ride back to Mexico.
  2. A nice sack lunch with a second bag checked for free.
  3. $100 for every name turned in who gets deported on a bus and a not-so-nice sack lunch.
  4. Fingerprinting and ineligibility to re-enter the United States for the next 10 years.

11 posted on 05/05/2008 11:31:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman ((Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud))
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To: mnehrling

“Whoa, tak’er easy there pilgrim.”


12 posted on 05/05/2008 11:32:43 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: mnehrling
What a sad story but not a word about the illegals who chose to come here and have kids setting this whole thing up. The parents who are here working illegally using stolen identities are the ones to blame for this mess. If they cared about what is happening then they should have followed the laws in the first place. I will not allow anyone to shove blame off onto the legal citizens of this country. The whole blame and fault is with the illegals. They seem to think if they have broken the laws of our nation for 10 or 20 years without being caught that they have some right to keep breaking those same laws with no accountability. BS, put them on trial, put them in prison, and then kick their butts out!!!!!
We need to send a big message to all of the people in this nation that our laws will be enforced and that no person or people have the right to chose which ones they want to ignore!!!!
13 posted on 05/05/2008 11:33:40 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (As bit by bit of the states case falls apart Texas responds with a few more unsubstienated accusatio)
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To: mnehrling

They need to turn towards the path back to their own country and stay there.


14 posted on 05/05/2008 11:45:41 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: mnehrling

Let me just save these “journalists” some time. Next occasion you have for writing one of these hand-wringing boo-hoo stories about deportations, just use the following template:

Poor

A) Pedro
B) Maria
C) Jose
D) Jesus Christo

is

A) working
B) babysitting her dozen helpless children
C) discovering a cure for cancer

when

A) thugs
B) goons
C)gestapo
D) roving hordes

from

A) the INS
B) government hit squads

show up at the

A) tiny but impeccable bungalow
B) business gates
C) lettuce patch

and haul away the terrified

A) mother of nine
B) hardworking man who was merely searching for a better life

amid

A) gasps of horror
B) howls of outrage
C) beatific calls for forgiveness for “they know not what they do”.


15 posted on 05/05/2008 11:53:09 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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"The nurses don't speak Spanish," she added. "It's just a real problem."

What about:

"The inmates don't speak English," she added. "It's just a real problem."

16 posted on 05/05/2008 11:56:02 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Simple-minded conservative...)
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To: mnehrling

OMG.....when I read the headline I figured that we were going to have to start calling them Pilgrims instead of undocumented aliens now........(Not SO far out of the realm of posibilites)


17 posted on 05/05/2008 12:26:58 PM PDT by mpackard (Proud mama of a Sailor.)
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To: mnehrling

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower.


18 posted on 05/05/2008 1:24:08 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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"They don't know which way to turn,

Try turning them SW, and start them driving; they'll eventually arrive at the proper destination.

19 posted on 05/05/2008 1:51:17 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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