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Organ Harvesting Confirmed By a Former Detention Center Prisoner
The Epoch Times ^ | May 2, 2008 | By Li Jie

Posted on 05/04/2008 7:19:27 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL

In early 2006, The Epoch Times first exposed the Chinese Communist Party's crime of harvesting organs from live Falun Gong practitioners. Since then new evidence continues to surface.

Recently a witness from Wuxi City, Jiangsu Province has come forward and revealed what he discovered during his detention in Wuxi City No.2 Detention Center. According to the witness, many cases of organ harvesting occurred during 2002.

He was detained from 2005 to 2007 because he made opposing comments about China's unlawful control of personal speech and media. During his imprisonment he learned that not only death row prisoners were killed for their organs, but Falun Gong practitioners too. For the safety of the witness's family in China, we will not disclose his name.

Reporter: Under what circumstance were you able to find out about the organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners?

Witness: Between March 2005 and early 2007, I was unlawfully imprisoned in Wuxi City No.2 Detention Center. To add insult to my injury, the prison guards repeatedly moved me from cell to cell. Each time I was moved to a different cell, the despicable guards told the inmates I was nuts and that they shouldn't talk to me. The inmates were even instructed to give me a hard time. During my detention, I was kept in 17 different cells. Inmates that had been imprisoned for a long time told me that organs were harvested from about two or three Falun Gong practitioners in every cell between 2002 and 2003.

Reporter: How did the subject come up?

Witness: In the detention center, each inmate must have at least two physical examinations a year. During the examination, the veteran inmates quietly told me, "It's time to harvest organs from these people. Look at those strong young men. It is their organs that will be harvested."

Reporter: Who were those "strong young men"?

Witness: Death row inmates and Falun Gong practitioners. The doctors carefully examined these people, but hardly paid attention to other inmates. It is no longer kept a secret that organs are removed from death row prisoners. Executions are carried out before the Chinese New Year and October 1 every year, so physical examinations are made in January and September when the doctors check on the health of prisoners to determine which parts are fit for organ transplant. These veteran inmates have noticed that Falun Gong practitioners are examined with unusual care. This means they may be targeting them.

Reporter: How did these veteran inmates know that Falun Gong practitioners' organs were harvested?

Witness: Falun Gong practitioners have their own spiritual belief. Those inmates think they are just obstinate. All it takes for practitioners to be released is to guarantee in writing never to practice Falun Gong again, but they will not do it. So they are subjected to beating and torture. Sometimes the guards will deny practitioners food. Other times the guards feed them pigswill or food spoiled by fungi. I know for a fact that there are two prison guards in each detention center in Wuxi whose job is to beat up inmates. They will beat and torture practitioners until they are nearly dead. Sometimes the prisoners suffer internal injuries that prevent them from eating. Sometimes their lips and mouths are injured by severe kicking, making them unable to eat. After administering saline solutions for two days, the guards will stop and ignore them. By then, these practitioners are half dead. The next day they are hauled out of the cell and their organs will be removed. We will never see them again.

Reporter: How can these inmates be certain these practitioners are killed for their organs, instead of being released?

Witness: You asked me how the veteran inmates know for sure if these practitioners are killed for their organs instead of being released? Firstly, these people will not promise to stop practicing Falun Gong, so there is no way they will be released. Second, practitioners are taken to an isolated room. Many doctors dressed in white will go to the room and collect them, and they are never seen again. One day a new prisoner was put in our cell. He told us that a practitioner's family was arguing with the guards outside. They questioned why their relative had died so suddenly and why the body was cremated before it was shown to the family. The inmates were puzzled. After all, that practitioner was alive when he was removed from the cell two days ago. How could he die so suddenly? He must have been murdered. Why did they deny his family the right to see the body before cremation? It is because his organs had been removed. Think about it. They harvest organs from executed prisoners, why wouldn't they go one step further?

Reporter: Does this happen to every cell? How often?

Witness: I was imprisoned for two years and kept in 17 different cells. In each cell, one inmate related real stories about practitioners being killed for their organs, often more than once. Even though I didn't witness the crime in person, I did see how violently they beat up Falun Gong practitioners. The guards would bind them to a board with their limbs stretched out and keep them tied for long hours. They would not be allowed to visit the toilet. I have also witnessed guards prying open practitioners' mouths with sharpened bamboo sticks for force-feeding or stuffing their mouths with wooden blocks. I have no idea if they have changed the way they operate now.

Reporter: In other words, inmates in detention centers knew about organ harvesting from live Falun Gong practitioners as early as 2002, before the crime was exposed to the world?

Witness: That's right. Inmates from detention centers knew about it in 2002. When I read the reports about the organ harvesting after I left China, I totally believed and agreed in the accuracy of the reports.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; falungong; organharvesting

1 posted on 05/04/2008 7:19:28 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL
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2 posted on 05/04/2008 7:19:51 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL
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To: Calpernia

China organ harvesting ping.


3 posted on 05/04/2008 7:20:38 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL
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To: JACKRUSSELL

Didn’t some science fiction writer say something about the same thing happening here with illegals? ( Just kidding...)


4 posted on 05/04/2008 7:21:53 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: JACKRUSSELL

And THIS story is a surprise to whom?? If the Chinese poison people, kill babies just before their birth by scrambling their brains, allow only two kids per couple, this story should be of no surprise to anyone.


5 posted on 05/04/2008 7:24:02 PM PDT by antiunion person (President McCain, what a disgusting phrase.)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

I guess one can buy organs as a souvenir during the Olympics.


6 posted on 05/04/2008 7:26:01 PM PDT by FORTRUTHONLY (Easy as 3.14159265358979323846...)
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To: AuntB; cripplecreek; ChinaThreat

More on the benefits of free trade.


7 posted on 05/04/2008 7:35:27 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Karl Marx supported free trade. Does that make him a free market conservative?)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

www.laogai.com

Harry Wu brought a video tape to Colorado in the 90s,
showing political dissidents being murdered in front
of their fellow towns folk, and whisked away in waiting
ambulances, for their organs to be harvested and sold to
wealthy westerners.


8 posted on 05/04/2008 7:37:11 PM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13!!!!!)
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To: JACKRUSSELL
Hitler is smiling in hell.


9 posted on 05/04/2008 8:08:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: JACKRUSSELL

The obvious solution is a “poison pill”, figuratively speaking. If any of their number are medical people, they should obtain hepatitis antigens, and inoculate those in danger of arrest. They will not develop the disease, but will test positive for it.

And individuals that test positive for hepatitis will most likely even be rejected by Chinese transplant doctors. Small comfort, I’m sure.

Then again, if they knew they were going to be killed, they might even infect themself with HIV. If they are lucky, they might then infect a party member who gets their organ, or at least, ruin the reputation of the transplant system.


10 posted on 05/04/2008 8:35:22 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; All

China will make the Nazis look like amateurs before it is all over.


11 posted on 05/04/2008 8:46:04 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“More on the benefits of free trade.”

60 minutes did a spot about the empty shipping containers of our imports being used for housing. yep, the latest trend. We have millions of the things stacked all over the place...because they don’t want them back empty...

So much for reciprocity. Now 60 minutes didn’t touch on that obvious imbalance, as so many don’t want to do.


12 posted on 05/04/2008 9:46:15 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! Because it's hard to blame 'the man' when you are the 'man')
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To: TigerLikesRooster; JACKRUSSELL

http://wikileaks.org/leak/tibet-protest-photos/index.html


13 posted on 05/05/2008 6:52:44 AM PDT by Dr. Marten
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To: redstateconfidential

I always have to remind myself that respect for the individual is a very western concept. The importance of people has a different priority is Asia, which is their norm, but a difficult concept for Americans to grasp.

For example, in old Japan, if a fisherman offended the emperor, his entire village might be put to death. This was because just killing the fisherman, or even killing his entire family, would have been seen as the same as doing nothing *by everyone*. The only punishment that mattered to anyone would be killing the entire village. The village was the lowest level of importance that was respected by anyone.

The Nazis, however, were very focused on the importance of individualism, and like Americans, saw individuals forming into groups as being progressively more powerful, if not more important. For this reason, in Germany, Nazis would always arrest, torture, imprison and kill individual dissenters; but they seem stymied when large groups of protesters took to the streets. This was noted in a recent book that challenged many of the myths of the Nazi regime.

But looking to China, where again, individual human life has very little value indeed, the Chinese as a whole hold most of the same values as their leaders. And while they deeply remember events in their history which lead to the death of millions of people, they are not mourned for the individual loss of life, like they would be in the West. Instead they are mourned as a tragedy as a whole.

When westerners look at an event like the Holocaust, one of the first things we think of is that 6M people, individuals, died. But when China looks at their Taiping Rebellion, they see a religion fighting the emperor, almost like two giants duking it out. That 30M or so individuals might have been killed is a footnote.

Many aspects of this disregard for the importance of the individual are truly shocking to Americans. For example, during the Korean War, the Chinese were willing to throw enormous numbers of almost unarmed men against US machine gun positions. Human wave attacks that resulted in walls of dead bodies. Their military attitude was “there are more where those came from”.

This continued to happen as late as 1979, with the Vietnamese-Chinese war. The Chinese wanted to punish Vietnam for invading Cambodia, so threw lots of green infantry up against the hardened, battle trained Vietnamese Army. The Chinese were severely thumped, but didn’t care, as they had inflicted enough damage on the Vietnamese to make their point. From their point of view, even though they had lost five times as many men, they still “won”.


14 posted on 05/05/2008 7:26:51 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: JACKRUSSELL; TigerLikesRooster; B4Ranch; Tiger_eye

http://wikileaks.org/leak/tibet-protest-photos/index.html

Warning: Graphic images


15 posted on 05/05/2008 7:31:49 AM PDT by Wu Di
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

All true.That is why the idiots that “run” the west will find out to Our horror that the deaths of millions of Africans,Indians, Asians, Arabs, Europeans and Americans will mean nothing to the Chinese even if they lose 400 0r 500 million in all out war.
Western writer’s accounts noted that if a Chinese farmer found a wounded soldier in his fields he would often plow around him and leave the soldier to die.


16 posted on 05/05/2008 8:04:25 AM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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