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Barack Obama's Muslim Childhood--What does it mean if he was a Muslim and is now hiding it?
Frontpagemagazine ^ | 4-29-08 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 04/29/2008 4:56:19 AM PDT by SJackson

Barack Obama's Muslim Childhood

 

By Daniel Pipes
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, April 29, 2008

As Barack Obama's candidacy comes under increasing scrutiny, his account of his religious upbringing deserves careful attention for what it tells us about the candidate's integrity.

Obama asserted in December, "I've always been a Christian," and he has adamantly denied ever having been a Muslim. "The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country [Kenya]. But I've never practiced Islam." In February, he claimed: "I have never been a Muslim. … other than my name and the fact that I lived in a populous Muslim country for 4 years when I was a child [Indonesia, 1967-71] I have very little connection to the Islamic religion."

"Always" and "never" leave little room for equivocation. But many biographical facts, culled mainly from the American press, suggest that, when growing up, the Democratic candidate for president both saw himself and was seen as a Muslim.

Obama's Kenyan birth father: In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. (1936–1982) was a Muslim who named his boy Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Only Muslim children are named "Hussein".

Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."

Barack Obama's Catholic school in Jakarta.

The Catholic school: Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press reports that "documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim" while at a Catholic school during first through third grades. Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school." A blogger who goes by "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" found that "Barack Hussein Obama was registered under the name ‘Barry Soetoro' serial number 203 and entered the Franciscan Asisi Primary School on 1 January 1968 and sat in class 1B. … Barry's religion was listed as Islam."

The public school: Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times learned from Indonesians familiar with Obama when he lived in Jakarta that he "was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended." Haroon Siddiqui of the Toronto Star visited the Jakarta public school Obama attended and found that "Three of his teachers have said he was enrolled as a Muslim." Although Siddiqui cautions that "With the school records missing, eaten by bugs, one has to rely on people's shifting memories," he cites only one retired teacher, Tine Hahiyari, retracting her earlier certainty about Obama's being registered as a Muslim.

Barack Obama's public school in Jakarta.

Koran class: In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith. Indeed, Obama still retains knowledge from that class: Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times, reports that Obama "recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them [to Kristof] with a first-rate accent."

Mosque attendance: Obama's half-sister recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events." Watson learned from childhood friends that "Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." Barker found that "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." One Indonesia friend, Zulfin Adi, states that Obama "was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong" (a garment associated with Muslims).

Piety: Obama himself says that while living in Indonesia, a Muslim country, he "didn't practice [Islam]," implicitly acknowledging a Muslim identity. Indonesians differ in their memories of him. One, Rony Amir, describes Obama as "previously quite religious in Islam."

Obama's having been born and raised a Muslim and having left the faith to become a Christian make him neither more nor less qualified to become president of the United States. But if he was born and raised a Muslim and is now hiding that fact, this points to a major deceit, a fundamental misrepresentation about himself that has profound implications about his character and his suitability as president.

Mr. Pipes (www.DanielPipes.org), director of the Middle East Forum, is the Taube/Diller distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution of Stanford University. © All rights reserved by Daniel Pipes.

 


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; danielpipes; husseinobama; nobama; obama
I don't think this is a particularly effective issue given his other problems, but Pipes provides a good recitation of the facts.
1 posted on 04/29/2008 4:56:20 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

I doubt that Obama is or ever was a muslim. I also doubt that he is or ever was a Christian except superficially so for political purposes. There can be no doubt that he is, was, and will forever be a communist and that little inconvenient fact is what we ought to be talking about.


2 posted on 04/29/2008 5:06:06 AM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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To: SJackson

Well Reverend Wright uses the Nation of Islam as body guards, so who knows.


3 posted on 04/29/2008 5:06:53 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: SJackson
Muslims would see him as an apostate Muslim. Apostasy tops their list of offenses, tied Jews.

Ranked in order:

1) Apostates & Jews
2) Jews
3) Jews
4) Jews
5) Christians
6) Jews

4 posted on 04/29/2008 5:08:02 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: SJackson

According to Shria law it is “Once a Muslim, always a Muslim.” Of course not every Muslim believes this, but the Islamists, the ones who want to end the world in a firey explosion, believe this. That is the important fact in this matter.


5 posted on 04/29/2008 5:13:26 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatives live in the truth. Liberals live in lies.)
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To: SJackson
It seems that Obama’s brand of Christianity is what is hurting him.
6 posted on 04/29/2008 5:20:03 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: SJackson

It’s interesting to me that Obama “found Jesus” with the likes of Rev. Wright, who is the Farrakhan of bogus black liberation “Christianity” (sic). In fact, Obama’s 20 year mentor lauds and praises Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, and was even guarded by NOI goons at yesterday’s NPC event. Other NOI “luminaries” attended the event. What kind of “Christian” is Wright, really? What kind of “Christian” is Obama, really? The kind who loves and honors the Nation of Islam and Farrakhan.

This doesn’t mean Obama is a secret Muslim, but it raises disturbing questions about a man who could be president.


7 posted on 04/29/2008 5:22:34 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: centurion316

This is a thorough article about Barry’s mother. She was a hard core atheist, so why did she send her child to a Catholic school and register him as a Muslim? I think that the stepfather decided that the boy should be a Muslim. He’s lying about this part of his past.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-0703270151mar27,0,1310554.story?page=4&coll=chi-homepage-utl


8 posted on 04/29/2008 5:22:44 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Bosco

If Obama wins the Democrat nomination, we’ll see if being a Democrat is more important to US Jews than being Jews. That has been their voting history.


9 posted on 04/29/2008 5:25:36 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Bosco; SJackson
Muslims would see him as an apostate Muslim. Apostasy tops their list of offenses, tied Jews.

Unless they believe he is practicing taqiyya.

"[Yusufali 16:106] Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief, except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith, but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty."

10 posted on 04/29/2008 5:33:11 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, Condi, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: SJackson

Barack Hilal Obama attened a madrassa as a child.

If he ever uttered the phrase “There is no God but God and Mohammed is his Prophet”- then he was a practicing muslim.


11 posted on 04/29/2008 5:46:16 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: F-117A

Obama’s little lies just keep piling up...of course he was a Mualim just like he is a Christian or a Patriot. For him it’s all part of the grand scheme that he thinks he is the One! what a arogant and ignorant tool. Obama is being used by others for nefarious reasons. Wonder why Pipes doesn’t just come out and rebuke the BHO was NEVER a Muslim Lies?


12 posted on 04/29/2008 5:47:24 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: SJackson
[I]f he was born and raised a Muslim and is now hiding that fact, this points to a major deceit, a fundamental misrepresentation about himself that has profound implications about his character and his suitability as president.

That, and how overwhelmingly foreign the guy is.

13 posted on 04/29/2008 5:49:36 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: ishabibble
Barry’s mother. She was a hard core atheist

Bingo. And she was a looney leftie anthropologist. He never knew his father, but was smart enough to know that he didn't want to call his book, Stuff I Learned from my Commie Mother

N.B. I thought the word was spelled ishkabibble.

14 posted on 04/29/2008 5:53:17 AM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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To: SJackson
If was a Muslim but now is a Christian maybe it means he saw the error of being a Muslim. But if he is lying about ever being a Muslim and says he has always been a Christian it is a major deceit.

His father and step father were both Muslim, his mother was an atheist, did he pick up Christianity from his grandparents or his wife? If it was his wife then he was a Muslim until he met her, that is a pretty long time to be indoctrinated by Islam.

15 posted on 04/29/2008 6:06:01 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: SJackson

hamas endorsed him, ‘nuff said.


16 posted on 04/29/2008 6:30:28 AM PDT by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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To: SJackson
And then there is that quote from "The Audacity of Hope" (IIRC)...

"if the political winds turn ugly, I will stand with the muslims."

17 posted on 04/29/2008 6:45:51 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SJackson

Barack has a sister born to his mother and Indonesian step father.Has anyone looked into what her religion is? If Barack were raised Muslim wouldn’t she have been as well?

Sunday, January 20, 2008
What Barak’s Sister Says on Islam
As posted in the NYT, this is what Maya Soetoro-Ng, Barak Obama’s half-sister, says about Islam in an interview. It would be better to hear a fuller comment. But here’s what she says so far:

NYT: Your mom has been described as an atheist.
MAYA: I wouldn’t have called her an atheist. She was an agnostic. She basically gave us all the good books — the Bible, the Hindu Upanishads and the Buddhist scripture, the Tao Te Ching — and wanted us to recognize that everyone has something beautiful to contribute.

NYT: You didn’t mention the Koran in that list, although Indonesia is the most populous Muslim country in the world.
MAYA: I should have mentioned the Koran. Mom didn’t really emphasize the Koran, but we read little parts of it. We did listen to morning prayers in Indonesia.

NYT: Are you worried about mentioning Islam because it has already been evoked by negative campaigners trying to tarnish your brother?
MAYA: I’m not worried. I don’t want to deny Islam. I think it’s obviously very important that we have an understanding of Islam, a better understanding. At the same time, it has been erroneously attached to my brother. The man has been a Christian for 20 years.


18 posted on 04/30/2008 8:19:14 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: centurion316; SJackson
According to the Canada Free Press, Obama's "true full name in Kenya is Barrack Hussein Muhammad Obama" (scroll down to "Letter from Africa").
19 posted on 04/30/2008 8:31:46 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: COUNTrecount
The man has been a Christian for 20 years.

"Converting" at precisely the time he launched his political career in Chicago as a "community organizer".

20 posted on 04/30/2008 8:34:36 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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