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Deaths of trees 'catastrophic'
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jan/15/beetle-infestation-get-much-worse/ ^

Posted on 04/26/2008 12:01:29 PM PDT by chessplayer

Every large, mature lodgepole pine forest in Colorado and southern Wyoming will be dead within three to five years, killed in a mountain pine beetle infestation unprecedented in the state.

(Excerpt) Read more at rockymountainnews.com ...


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KEYWORDS: forestmanagement; forestry; pinebeetles
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1 posted on 04/26/2008 12:01:29 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

It doesn’t take a blithering idiot to know that DDT will stop this. We should spray it and tell the enviromentalists to go to hell.


2 posted on 04/26/2008 12:07:09 PM PDT by RC2
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To: chessplayer

Since, as we all know, there have never ever before in the history of the planet been beetle infestations or blights or tree die-offs of any kind, I’m terrified.


3 posted on 04/26/2008 12:07:51 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: denydenydeny

I would suggest you look at the forests. It is a real problem when looking at water sheds and fire protection and wild life habitat. It can be handled but only with the right chemicals.............that work.


4 posted on 04/26/2008 12:16:13 PM PDT by RC2
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To: denydenydeny

A great deal of the blame for this pine beetle infestation can be laid at the feet of the Liberals/Enviros.

Aprox. ten years or so ago there was a huge forest ‘blow-down’ near Steamboat Springs. Thousands of trees over hundreds of acres were literally blown down.

Environmental policies in place would not allow the trees to be removed and turned into useable products. As the trees were left to rot it provided a perfect breeding ground for the pine beetles.

So, instead of utilizing the trees and making profits..as well as realizing tax dollars from the products...these same enviro nutjobs are going to spend millions of tax payer dollars on a study of what to do.

Liberal policies just suck.


5 posted on 04/26/2008 12:19:02 PM PDT by Be_Politically_Erect (Conservative from birth...Republican no more.)
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To: chessplayer

50 years of fire supression and an inept forest policy and here we are. I guess sometimes being “green” is actually Brown.


6 posted on 04/26/2008 12:25:31 PM PDT by meat skinner (find the place above both "sides" and stay there.)
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To: Be_Politically_Erect
Hmmmmn.

Pine peetles are killing all the trees in Colorado. Can't kill the pine beetles (with DDT) since DDT was (falsely) accused of killing people many years by people who want all bugs and all trees to live.

solution?

Kill more people. Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot were a good start ....

7 posted on 04/26/2008 12:27:36 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: RC2

Most of the Ash trees are gone due to the Emerald Ash Borer.


8 posted on 04/26/2008 12:31:04 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: chessplayer

That’s gonna be one hotter than hell banging on the door forest fire when she goes up.


9 posted on 04/26/2008 12:37:11 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Rope, Tree & Traitor; Some Assembly Required || Gun Control Means Never Having To Say I Missed You)
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To: chessplayer

The death of a certain batch of trees is a catastrophe? Guess 45 million aborted people pale in comparison. /sarc


10 posted on 04/26/2008 12:37:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: RC2

Forest fire will cause lodgepole seeds to sprout and renew the forest. Fire opens the cones to release the seeds.


11 posted on 04/26/2008 12:41:01 PM PDT by Clara Lou (~sigh~ '08)
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To: Be_Politically_Erect
Well at least the rich liberals at Vail got a taste of their own medicine. I guess the serria club wants to put the US into third world status with no petroleum, no resources, no roads, and just plain NO!!!
12 posted on 04/26/2008 12:43:24 PM PDT by mountainlion (Concerned Conservative.)
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To: RC2
Actually, the idiots with the forest service started the ball rolling due to improper storage of DDT.

Several barrels were found rusting or on their sides leaking DDT concentrate into the soil. Apparently, this was happening all over Colorado.

So...that*s when the environmentalists got involved and succeeded in getting it banned.

There was a fear that it would leach into the water table.

13 posted on 04/26/2008 12:46:39 PM PDT by moondoggie
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To: chessplayer

it seems to me that many “environmental” policies are often the source of much environmental damage - why?

they are usually advocated by academics, they usually deal with statistics - particularly on what MIGHT happen if an action is taken while ignoring both the practical consequences or experienced-time-tested instinct of unintended consequences of not taking that action

malaria could have been wiped out in africa today were it not for the ban on ddt


14 posted on 04/26/2008 12:51:54 PM PDT by Wuli (.)
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To: B4Ranch
We are definitely living on borrowed time up here. Bordering the southern end of the San Isabel Forest that*s half dead and full of dead standing trees is a disaster waiting to happen.

We always need rain down here, but are deathly afraid the lightning will trigger a wildfire.

Our own property is covered with 40 acres of lodgepoles, too.

15 posted on 04/26/2008 12:53:09 PM PDT by moondoggie
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To: Clara Lou
Forest fire will cause lodgepole seeds to sprout and renew the forest. Fire opens the cones to release the seeds.

The Mason Gulch Fire got within 3 miles of us, but we were smokey for several days with embers blowing in.

There was seedlings EVERYWHERE the following year.

16 posted on 04/26/2008 12:57:58 PM PDT by moondoggie
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To: Wuli
The worst the environmentalists have done is to stop logging and the healthy thinning of the trees in all of our nation*s forests.

Roadless wildnernesses areas was another dumb idea, IMO.

17 posted on 04/26/2008 1:01:32 PM PDT by moondoggie
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To: RC2

Until last year I had lived on Cape Cod for 12 years (big mistake, lovely place except for the people), and in 1999 I was told the beetle mentioned here would destroy all the pine trees on the Cape within 3 years. For any of you who have never been there, if it were not for pine trees there would be no trees on the Cape at all.

When I escaped last year there as many if not more trees then 1999. Pine trees grow like weeds and it seems as if every cone they drop turns into another 10-15 new trees.


18 posted on 04/26/2008 1:01:49 PM PDT by Vio24
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To: chessplayer; All
I use SpyBot, and it created a pop-up when I clicked on the link ...

It said I was trying to download a known threat and did I want to block it.

I've provided spaces so (I hope) it's not good here.

/ Avenue A . Inc .

Just warnin'

19 posted on 04/26/2008 1:18:13 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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