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To: edcoil

and I have time in CIC of a carrier to blow your little boat out of the water at any time i please....


18 posted on 04/25/2008 9:17:22 AM PDT by joe fonebone (The Second Amendment is the Contitutions reset button)
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To: joe fonebone

My hope is that you do find the bad guys and not find us.


22 posted on 04/25/2008 9:46:55 AM PDT by edcoil
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To: edcoil; joe fonebone

As a former Marine who served two years on a Marine corps carrier - USS Princeton (LPH-5) - I can see both sides of your argument. Modern carriers and subs have technology I can only dream of and it is a on-going contest.

However, keep in mind, that carreirs and subs have different missions:subs can’t lauch planes to support Marines on the ground and carriers can’t stop missile-launching subs.

Princeton was a testimony to vulnerability. So much steel had been stripped when she was converted to LPH status, that only fleet ballistic subs could match her speed, 38 knots maxed out. Two of four 5” gun turrets were removed and only 2-5” single guns on the port side remained. All other guns and gun tubs were removed, as well as the arresting gear, half the crews quarters and anything else that could be taken out. Catapults stayed, only because they would have had to remove the sides.

Now despite all that speed, Princeton was actually hit with a torpedo that had been “accidentally” launched. Fortunately, it turned out to be a dud. But, as they say, that sure left a mark.

So you are both right.

Semper fi


25 posted on 04/25/2008 9:51:20 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1 - Take no prisoners))
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To: joe fonebone
Sounds like Ed is a little jealous, to me.

Think about it. While you and I were partying in all those liberty ports, the bubbleheads rarley saw the light of day for 3 months at a time.

He'll probably come back and tell us how wonderful Scotland is.

33 posted on 04/25/2008 10:21:15 AM PDT by ryan71 (Typical bitter white gun toter)
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