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Ron Paul's Boot Camp for NonTaxpayers (How to be a non-taxpayer)
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Posted on 04/21/2008 11:52:29 AM PDT by mnehring

Dr. Paul has praised non-violent civil disobedience as an honorable and effective means of dealing with runaway federal power, including taxation. You should, nevertheless, know what you're doing and count the cost before you begin.

Taxpayer or Non-Taxpayer?

Has such a question ever even occurred to you? Have you even heard of a "nontaxpayer" before? Wouldn't it be unpatriotic not to "pay your taxes" like everyone else?

Taxpayer? Nontaxpayer? Which are you? Is there an unequivocal reason that you "voluntarily comply" with the world's most obscure, deceptive, and fraudulently administered tax law, Title 26 of the US Code? Are YOU [fill in your name here] "made liable" for an income tax by some specific activity or circumstance, clearly stated in that book of law, or do you pay tax just because "everybody else does?"

Can you name the statute and section that makes you liable? Would the IRS produce it for you if you were to ask? If you think that they would, just try asking them sometime! You will soon find out that the IRS is not interested in what the law says or means - their only purpose is to take your money, and shame on you for even asking such a "frivolous" question!

As a matter of fact, the average working American is not liable under Title 26 for any "income tax". Don't you consider such a claim worth at least investigating? And Ron Paul, known as "The Taxpayer's Best Friend," has suggested that the true patriot does not mindlessly "comply" with oppressive state demands, despite possible consequences:

"The true patriot... rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the state. Resistance need not be violent, but the civil disobedience that might be required involves confrontation with the state and invites possible imprisonment." - Ron Paul, Who Are The Patriots?


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: felony; irs; ronpaul; taxevaders
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1 posted on 04/21/2008 11:52:29 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: jmc813
No peanut gallery comments ping. This one came down the pipe, thought it might be good discussion on civial disobedience.

"The true patriot... rejects the notion that patriotism means obedience to the state. Resistance need not be violent, but the civil disobedience that might be required involves confrontation with the state and invites possible imprisonment." - Ron Paul

2 posted on 04/21/2008 11:55:15 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

There are lots of “tax protestors” in orange jumpsuits that I am guessing wished they had taken a different path when that thought crossed their mind.

I hate paying taxes but damnit, if I have to then so do you so have a Coke and a smile and STFU.


3 posted on 04/21/2008 11:55:19 AM PDT by infantrywhooah
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civial = civil

oops, typing too fast and not proofing.

4 posted on 04/21/2008 11:55:57 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: infantrywhooah
I hate paying taxes but damnit, if I have to then so do you so have a Coke and a smile and STFU.

The comments within the article in no way express my opinion. I post strictly for discussion purposes.

5 posted on 04/21/2008 11:57:24 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

Nothing like somebody from the government telling you to commit a crime.


6 posted on 04/21/2008 11:57:25 AM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: mnehrling

No one is a match for the IRS. This is not a good idea.


7 posted on 04/21/2008 11:59:32 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: mnehrling
As a matter of fact, the average working American is not liable under Title 26 for any "income tax".

Whatever the text says, the courts have always ruled that they are.

8 posted on 04/21/2008 12:00:27 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: All
..and just for discussion purposes (from the US Constitution):

Article VI - This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land.

Article V - The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

Amendment XVI - The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

9 posted on 04/21/2008 12:01:52 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

I was not addressing my comments to any one person


10 posted on 04/21/2008 12:03:43 PM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: mnehrling

You know, this kind of reminds of the mullahs who encourage the OTHER men in the Mosque to martyr themselves for the cause. They, of course, are way too important t lose.


11 posted on 04/21/2008 12:03:45 PM PDT by GulfBreeze (McCain is our nominee. Yeah... I guess.)
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To: infantrywhooah

“the borrower is a slave to the lender”- If we continually OWE money to our government for doing nothing more than earning a living are we “slaves”..?


12 posted on 04/21/2008 12:06:55 PM PDT by JSDude1 (It;s only a protest vote if your political worldview is Republican 1st, conservative 2nd-pissant)
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To: mnehrling

Side topic. Purely for discussion.

Is gold and silver the only way to pay State taxes?

‘Section 10. No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; MAKE ANYTHING BUT GOLD AND SILVER COIN A TENDER IN PAYMENT OF DEBTS; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.’


13 posted on 04/21/2008 12:09:26 PM PDT by BGHater ("If any question why we died/ Tell them, because our fathers lied")
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To: mnehrling

This thinking and reasoning from the man who
couldn’t even get into some presidential debates
because he has such a small following.

He’s such a frightening individual. He’s liable
to end up one of the tax-dodgers in orange jump suits.


14 posted on 04/21/2008 12:10:14 PM PDT by righttackle44 (a)
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To: righttackle44

Why is your post in meter?


15 posted on 04/21/2008 12:14:29 PM PDT by jmc813 (Eek!)
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To: righttackle44

Riffing on the mullah comment, I’d have more respect for Mr. Paul if he followed his own hinted-ad advice. Does he pay his taxes, or refuse to pay on moral grounds?


16 posted on 04/21/2008 12:15:53 PM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: infantrywhooah
There are lots of “tax protestors” in orange jumpsuits that I am guessing wished they had taken a different path when that thought crossed their mind. I hate paying taxes but damnit, if I have to then so do you so have a Coke and a smile and STFU.

An easy way to make non taxpayers (poor people) pay at least some tax: Institute a national lottery.

17 posted on 04/21/2008 12:19:02 PM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 274 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: mnehrling
Wouldn't it be unpatriotic not to "pay your taxes" like everyone else?

My personal opinion is that this would be "patriotically neutral" if that makes any sense at all. I'm on the up-and-up with my taxes, but I really have no problem whatsoever with tax cheats. I'd be a hypocrite being that I own a few weapons that are not at all legal in my state. I don't look at myself as "an proudly armed patriot" or anything like that, but I at the same time feel no moral remorse whatsoever for owning these.

18 posted on 04/21/2008 12:21:22 PM PDT by jmc813 (Eek!)
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To: meandog

In Florida we refer to the Lottery as the RRP (Redneck Retirement Plan)


19 posted on 04/21/2008 12:23:40 PM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: meandog
An easy way to make non taxpayers (poor people) pay at least some tax: Institute a national lottery.

I REALLY wish this were authorized in the Constitution, as it is a great idea. The lotteries as they are now are a state tax on the stupid; to have the dopey people pick up a share of my federal taxes as well would rock.

20 posted on 04/21/2008 12:24:23 PM PDT by jmc813 (Eek!)
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