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Imagery confirms underground nuclear sub base in China
Pakistan Defence ^ | 04/17/08 | Richard D Fisher Jr

Posted on 04/19/2008 8:24:18 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Imagery confirms underground nuclear sub base in China

Imagery confirms underground nuclear sub base in China

Richard D Fisher Jr Analyst - Virginia

Key Points

Exclusive access to Digital Globe satellite imagery has allowed Jane's to document China's nuclear naval build-up on Hainan Island

The Sanya base may be used to house the new Type 094 nuclear submarine

High-resolution satellite imagery from Digital Globe has enabled Jane's to confirm the construction of a major underground nuclear submarine base at Sanya, on Hainan Island off the southern coast of China.

Although Asian military sources first suggested the existence of the base to Jane's in 2002, the satellite imagery has allowed independent verification for the first time.

The extent of construction indicates that Sanya could become a key base for People's Liberation Army Navy aircraft carriers and other power-projection ships. In December 2007, perhaps in concert with a major People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) exercise the previous month, the PLA moved its first Type 094 second-generation nuclear ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) to Sanya.

Satellite imagery in 2005 showed new construction in the Sanya area of Hainan, confirming information from Jane's sources but revealing few useful details. However, the most recent Digital Globe imagery of the Sanya area shows that it is well on its way to becoming a major naval base.

Since 2005 the PLA has constructed two sets of piers that could accommodate two or more aircraft carrier battlegroups. In addition the PLA has nearly completed a long concrete pier on the coast that could support the loading of submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs) onto SSBNs, repair operations on large ships or the embarkation of heavy equipment or troops onto aircraft carriers or amphibious transport ships. Also of significance is the expansion and ornate nature of the headquarters, barracks and military support facilities.

Sanya contains an apparently incomplete cave entrance similar to that of the underground submarine pen known to exist at Jianggezhuang - the submarine base of the North Sea Fleet. The Sanya entrance is more than 23 m in width, which could easily accommodate all PLA submarines and some support ships.

On the eastern side of this peninsula, there are 11 additional access points to underground locations. These could have served to help excavate the new submarine facility, or they could also serve as storage areas for nuclear missiles or other weapons and equipment that need to be kept away from the vessels.

Beyond the strategic implications of securing the South China Sea, Sanya has topographical benefits. While nuclear ballistic missile submarine construction takes place near the North Sea Fleet base of Huludao, the nearby Yellow Sea and Bohai Gulf are too shallow, with depths of approximately 150 ft, creating unacceptable vulnerabilities for SSBN operations. South of Hainan Island, PLAN SSBNs would soon find depths exceeding 5,000 m, which could support submarine patrols.

Richard D. Fisher, Jr is a senior fellow with the International Assessment and Strategy Center in Alexandria, Virginia.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinesemilitary; hainan; nuclear; satellite; submarine
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The sub base is at Yalong Bay


1 posted on 04/19/2008 8:24:18 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; maui_hawaii; Jeff Head; Tainan; hedgetrimmer; Unam Sanctam; taxesareforever; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 04/19/2008 8:25:03 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Imagery confirms underground nuclear sub base in China

I'm not claiming to be the sharpest tool in the barn but aren't subs supposed to go underwater?
3 posted on 04/19/2008 8:27:36 AM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: infantrywhooah

“I’m not claiming to be the sharpest tool in the barn but aren’t subs supposed to go underwater?”

My thought exactly. Apparently they bury their nuke subs. LOL


4 posted on 04/19/2008 8:29:18 AM PDT by Eurale
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To: infantrywhooah
If the entrances to the sub pens are under water and the pens themselves are underground, it's going to be a lot harder to tell if chicom subs are prowling.

When we send a satellite over Poljarni, we can tell if Russian subs are there or not and step up alertness appropriately.

If I were a betting man, I'd say the chicoms are planning a first strike and don't want to risk satellites exposing their movements until after the first nukes fly.

5 posted on 04/19/2008 8:37:36 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Hard to grasp a nuke sub base in line of sight of two Western resort hotels and a golf course - particularly knowing the Chinese fetish for secrecy.
6 posted on 04/19/2008 8:38:44 AM PDT by norton
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Oooh!! I want one!!!


7 posted on 04/19/2008 8:41:50 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

I guess they haven’t come to grips with that Mutually Assured Destruction thing yet. I am sure we have enough boomers within striking range of China to turn that country into a nuclear wasteland in a matter of minutes. And now that we know of their pens you can rest assured that we will have more fast attacks patrolling that area.


8 posted on 04/19/2008 8:43:43 AM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
IF we plant sonar arrays in international waters outside the base, that will tell us when the submarines sortie, as well as which subs are making that sortie. That can be done with a Los Angeles-class sub. I don't think it is for a surprise attack, but so their subs can survive conventional air bombing from a superior U.S. force.
9 posted on 04/19/2008 8:44:04 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: norton

I’ll bet they didn’t realize we had satellites with X-Ray vision too! Rickshaw Rik not soooo smaaaaaht.


10 posted on 04/19/2008 8:44:47 AM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
If I were a betting man, I'd say the chicoms are planning a first strike and don't want to risk satellites exposing their movements until after the first nukes fly.

Damn, that's a scary thought.

11 posted on 04/19/2008 8:45:03 AM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I don’t see any reason why China can’t build a navy that will rival ours, or even go us one better. They have the technology, thanks to the treachery of the Clinton’s, and almost all of our money, thanks to unrestricted free trade, so what’s to stop them from having a more powerful navy, army, and air force?


12 posted on 04/19/2008 8:45:46 AM PDT by epow ("Necessity is the plea for infringement of every human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.")
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
I'd say the chicoms are planning a first strike and don't want to risk satellites exposing their movements until after the first nukes fly.

Who would they be planning to strike? Surely not the U.S. as we are among their best customers?

Of course if the dems win and shut down WalMart and impose protectionism, who knows?

13 posted on 04/19/2008 8:48:49 AM PDT by cerberus
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To: epow
Nato designation of the first Chinese boomers should be “Slick” and “Hildebeast.”
14 posted on 04/19/2008 8:48:55 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Eurale
That way their leaking reactors don't poison the populous. Russian techology, Russian problems
15 posted on 04/19/2008 8:51:32 AM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: infantrywhooah

MAD requires a desire to preserve ones people.

Considering the enormous landmass that is china and the disdain they hold for their people, you have to wonder if they wouldn’t consider the loss of 50%+ of their population an acceptable price to decapitate America.

The Russians were overwhelmingly paranoid but essentially rational, I don’t think the same can be said of the chinese leadership.


16 posted on 04/19/2008 8:52:09 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

A very valid point. I think they would be willing to lose even more than half. Which is why Bejing and their leadership must be evaporated first.


17 posted on 04/19/2008 8:56:48 AM PDT by infantrywhooah
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
If I were a betting man, I'd say the chicoms are planning a first strike and don't want to risk satellites exposing their movements until after the first nukes fly.

Relax, China and North Korea are harmless. That's why the United States must plunge into a war with Iran as soon as possible.

At least, that's what the neocons keep telling everyone.


18 posted on 04/19/2008 9:08:35 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: cerberus

The chicoms are milking the cow before they slaughter it.

Our status as consumer vassal in no way insulates us. If the chinese government truly wants world domination, the singular threat to that dominion is the U.S.

Besides, our economy is currently viewed as weak and growing weaker, we are militarily tied down in the middle east, our forces are tired and equipment is in need of repair and replacement. We are the weakest we’ve been militarily in decades and weakness encourages aggression by ones foes.

G_d grant that I’m badly wrong in my assessment.


19 posted on 04/19/2008 9:10:28 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: GAB-1955

I sincerely hope you’re right, but I don’t see why they would take the time and spend the money to create underground bases to stave off a conventional attack when they are certainly going to have plenty of warning that a conventional air and sea force is inbound.

The day of sneak attacks are long past.

Besides, the chinese have more than enough intelligence agents in the military and Washington to let them know what’s coming months in advance.


20 posted on 04/19/2008 9:15:24 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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