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1 posted on 04/17/2008 2:08:15 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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I can see the two as completely compatable.
Democracy is ‘Mob rule’.....


2 posted on 04/17/2008 2:12:18 PM PDT by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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So basically they can convert to democracy if we all somehow survive long enough for the the transition. Becaasue in the mean time, the fundamentals and the Jihadists are going to be trying to kill us all, or subjugate us.

Well, from the Jihadist Islamic perspective (which perspective is much closer to what their Koran actually teaches them), they would say,

"Sure, we can be democratic if you all agree to convert or die or submissively follow our law."

...and we have quislings amongst us who believe that may not be too bad a thing.


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4 posted on 04/17/2008 2:16:35 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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Pipes analysis is close, but it misses on the religious side.

Christianity, as epitomized by the Roman Catholic Church during the Middle Ages, did NOT change. The Roman Catholic Church changed when confronted with the Protestant Reformation.

One needs to go no further than the documents which founded this country to see that individual freedoms were seen to be given from God, not from government. This inspiration came from Christian dogma and a firm belief in divine providence. This belief in divine providence is not evident in the religion of Islam.

In any case, unlike the Koran, slavery, divine right of kings, is NOT codified into Christian doctrine. Therefore, the Church; i.e., ALL Christian denominations, can coexist with various governmental organizations.


7 posted on 04/17/2008 2:36:20 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: kiriath_jearim

Anyone who says that that death cult is compatible with democracy is an idiot.


8 posted on 04/17/2008 3:25:34 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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Ataturk only partially succeeded because Islam simply is not compatible with democracy. Islam means submission. Everything about the Koran points to submission and extreme fatalism. Neither is at all conducive to democracy. Turkey is slowly sliding backwards even now and it will not reverse again until/unless the Army once again fills its Constitutional role as Guardian of the Republic.


12 posted on 04/17/2008 5:48:09 PM PDT by arthurus
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