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German schoolboy, 13, corrects NASA's asteroid figures: paper
physorg ^ | 4/15/08

Posted on 04/15/2008 4:30:27 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter

A 13-year-old German schoolboy corrected NASA's estimates on the chances of an asteroid colliding with Earth, a German newspaper reported Tuesday, after spotting the boffins had miscalculated. Nico Marquardt used telescopic findings from the Institute of Astrophysics in Potsdam (AIP) to calculate that there was a 1 in 450 chance that the Apophis asteroid will collide with Earth, the Potsdamer Neuerster Nachrichten reported.

NASA had previously estimated the chances at only 1 in 45,000 but told its sister organisation, the European Space Agency (ESA), that the young whizzkid had got it right.

The schoolboy took into consideration the risk of Apophis running into one or more of the 40,000 satellites orbiting Earth during its path close to the planet on April 13 2029.

Those satellites travel at 3.07 kilometres a second (1.9 miles), at up to 35,880 kilometres above earth -- and the Apophis asteroid will pass by earth at a distance of 32,500 kilometres.

If the asteroid strikes a satellite in 2029, that will change its trajectory making it hit earth on its next orbit in 2036.

Both NASA and Marquardt agree that if the asteroid does collide with earth, it will create a ball of iron and iridium 320 metres (1049 feet) wide and weighing 200 billion tonnes, which will crash into the Atlantic Ocean.

The shockwaves from that would create huge tsunami waves, destroying both coastlines and inland areas, whilst creating a thick cloud of dust that would darken the skies indefinitely.

The 13-year old made his discovery as part of a regional science competition for which he submitted a project entitled: "Apophis -- The Killer Astroid."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Germany
KEYWORDS: 2004mn4; 99942; apophis; asteroid
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At least it wasn't a big error, only a factor of 100. And it wasn't about an important subject, only a killer asteroid. Yeah NASA!
1 posted on 04/15/2008 4:30:27 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: Straight Vermonter

Gives me plenty of confidence in their global warming predictions. /s


2 posted on 04/15/2008 4:32:15 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Straight Vermonter
america's public schools --- why bother with education when there is so much eco-brainwashing and social engineering to be done.

math and science isn't as important as having american kids learn about global warming and the activist gay agenda.

3 posted on 04/15/2008 4:35:37 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Straight Vermonter
"the young whizzkid had got it right.:

Rut row, NASA needs to get it's collective head out of it's a$$.

How scary is this?

4 posted on 04/15/2008 4:36:57 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Well this didn’t tell us anything we didn’t know about N.A.S.A. by now. Beyond that, yawn...


5 posted on 04/15/2008 4:44:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judicial appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: #1CTYankee

“Rut row, NASA needs to get it’s collective head out of it’s a$$.”

NASA ain’t what it used to be.


6 posted on 04/15/2008 4:44:22 PM PDT by Hacklehead (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

This kid will make a great bookie!


7 posted on 04/15/2008 4:45:42 PM PDT by BullDog108 (A Smith & Wesson beats four aces)
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To: Straight Vermonter

There is a lot of empty space up there. What is the probability of a Satellite-Comet collision?


8 posted on 04/15/2008 4:46:14 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Straight Vermonter

Well good, now can we turn the Global Warming B/S over to the second graders for a definitive answer?


9 posted on 04/15/2008 4:47:02 PM PDT by Gator113 (Hey Obama, "I drink your milkshake.")
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To: Straight Vermonter

Putting on my tinfoil hat, I wonder if they just didn’t want us to know how high the odds are.


10 posted on 04/15/2008 4:47:43 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

The only plan now is to catalog these things. There is no hardware in space to deal with something that emerges from space on a three-day collision course, which is what will get us. It will come up unexpected and it will probably be a swarm rather than a single asteroid.


11 posted on 04/15/2008 4:48:17 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Obviously it was yet another kilometer to mile conversion mistake by NASA ;)


12 posted on 04/15/2008 4:49:57 PM PDT by SengirV
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The schoolboy took into consideration the risk of Apophis running into one or more of the 40,000 satellites orbiting Earth during its path close to the planet on April 13 2029.

Those satellites travel at 3.07 kilometres a second (1.9 miles), at up to 35,880 kilometres above earth -- and the Apophis asteroid will pass by earth at a distance of 32,500 kilometres.

Does this mean that NASA did not take this risk in to account.

If it does it seems like a rather large oversight. I as a relatively uneducated individual thought about the possibility when Apophis close approach was reported last year.

13 posted on 04/15/2008 4:50:55 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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"NASA ain’t what it used to be."

Maybe they need to go back to duct tape and bubble gum.

Seems to me NASA is regressing, a pinnacle reached back in the early 70's? How pathetic is that!

14 posted on 04/15/2008 4:53:19 PM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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The schoolboy took into consideration the risk of Apophis running into one or more of the 40,000 satellites orbiting Earth during its path close to the planet on April 13 2029.

Those satellites travel at 3.07 kilometres a second (1.9 miles), at up to 35,880 kilometres above earth -- and the Apophis asteroid will pass by earth at a distance of 32,500 kilometres.

If the asteroid strikes a satellite in 2029, that will change its trajectory making it hit earth on its next orbit in 2036.

This raises the possibility that a satellite could intentionally be used to alter the course of the asteroid.

15 posted on 04/15/2008 4:53:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: BullDog108
That would be a great, unmarried bookie.
16 posted on 04/15/2008 4:54:13 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Straight Vermonter
"whilst creating a thick cloud of dust..."

Just how would a cloud of dust rise from the Atlantic ocean? - Is there anything NASA can get right anymore? They sure blew it when they conveniently forgot about the missing data from Siberian stations and arrived at the conclusion that we were warming when we were cooling.

17 posted on 04/15/2008 4:54:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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"This raises the possibility that a satellite could intentionally be used to alter the course of the asteroid."

Or a nuclear warhead on an ICBM.... Nah, they made them to kill people, not save'm.

18 posted on 04/15/2008 4:59:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Not surprising. Today’s NASA is a shadow of yesterday’s.


19 posted on 04/15/2008 5:00:07 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Straight Vermonter

First Hubble, now this sh*t, WTF? Everyone makes mistakes but these care kinda important. NASA needs a better QA program now! Come on boys....get your sh*t together....


20 posted on 04/15/2008 5:01:04 PM PDT by homeguard ((Charlie Don't Surf!))
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