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To: lucysmom
To claim major cost savings by eliminating corporate income tax when 61% of US corporations pay no income tax now is pure fantasy.

Wrong. First, my congratulations to the tax accountants for the 61%. I'll bet the compliance costs for the 61% were significant. The 61% number is for the years 1996-2000, under Clinton taxes. Second, a corporation doesn't need to pay income tax to have embedded taxes or compliance costs. If they withhold social security from employees, their share of social security is an embedded tax. If their suppliers pay any federal tax, there is an embedded tax. The "large" corporations, those with over $50 million gross income, had no where near 61% not paying income tax. And, using 2006 numbers, corporate income taxes were 15.7% of net collections of all taxes.

To deny the effect of embedded business taxes is purely delusional.

Likewise, to figure that the employee will receive their gross pay after the FairTax, particularly when employers are treated differently under the FairTax is also wishful thinking.

Net pay is gross pay minus deductions. If the deductions go to zero, net pay becomes gross pay. Would the FairTax negate every employment contract? I'll bet the unions would agree to that. (/s)

The point is that as food and energy prices increase, so does the FairTax.

And when my income goes up, of course my income tax will stay the same. And that is the reason the income tax is better.(/s) Where do you get logic like that?

I am not one that is looking for my federal tax bill to go down, at least not initially. I expect it to be very close to the same, since the FairTax is designed to be revenue neutral. If the same amount of revenue is raised from the same number of individuals, the average per individual will be the same. The average tax goes down if the number of individuals goes up or if the visibility of the tax creates pressure to cut spending.

I am looking to getting rid of the April 15 deadline and all of the aggravation associated with it. I expect my FairTax to be paid with the income tax I don't pay plus price reductions from elimination of embedded tax and tax compliance costs. I am looking forward to the economic activity generated when embedded taxes are removed from our exports and when corporations world-wide see a tax-free environment for their corporations.

34 posted on 04/18/2008 8:56:17 PM PDT by Cracker Jack (If it weren't for the democrats, republicans would be the worst thing in Washington.)
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To: Cracker Jack
The "large" corporations, those with over $50 million gross income, had no where near 61% not paying income tax. And, using 2006 numbers, corporate income taxes were 15.7% of net collections of all taxes.

In 1950, corporations paid 32.1 percent, so what's your point?

Would the FairTax negate every employment contract? I'll bet the unions would agree to that. (/s)

Unions have been making concessions in pay and benefits for some time now.

A stunning marker of this new era was the demand by Delphi last fall for wage cuts of more than 60 percent from its unionized workers. Never since the modern union movement rose in the struggles of the 1930s has a major company made that sort of demand. Delphi has since backed off a little, but it still is seeking reductions of more than 50 percent of pay levels.

Northwest's pilots have seen pay cuts totaling 35 percent over the past 15 months but face more demands for concessions from the airline.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002822905_laborgivebacks23.html

Pay cuts do happen and unions do accept them.

And when my income goes up, of course my income tax will stay the same. And that is the reason the income tax is better.(/s) Where do you get logic like that?

Its your logic in defense of the FairTax, not mine.

I am looking forward to the economic activity generated when embedded taxes are removed from our exports and when corporations world-wide see a tax-free environment for their corporations.

If its true that you get less of what you tax, then you can expect a decline in retail sales following the implementation of the FairTax. For us, in the US, that means a decline in economic activity and increased unemployment.

If its not true, then untaxing savings and investments will have no effect on that segment of the market.

36 posted on 04/19/2008 5:00:03 AM PDT by lucysmom
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