For what it’s worth (and I know you all have been anxiously awaiting my opinion .... you haven’t? You mean no one cares at all what I think? Oh well, here’s what I think anyway)
This is where I get off the train of support for the State’s persecution of the FCJCLDS. OK, there might be a reasonable case to be made that the fathers of these children are abusers. There might be a reasonable case to be made that the girl who made the original call was abused, and needed help. There might be a reasonable case to be made that some SPECIFIC parents who might be part of this sect might not be fit parents. There might even be a reasonable case to be made that some, or perhaps even all, of the parents and children involved need to be monitored and watched (at a place like, say, the San Angelo Coliseum) to prevent future abuse.
But to attempt to strip parental rights wholesale from 139 mothers (and an unknown, to me, number of fathers), without any individual determinations that these mothers and fathers are unfit parents ... words fail to describe the horror of this action. In what world does this wholesale breakup of families even begin to sound reasonable? Does anyone believe that the state has made any kind of individual, case-by-case analysis to indicate that each of those parents are unfit? Rather, it’s pretty obvious, at this point, that the state has simply decreed that mere association with a particular religion, even absent any proven or likely abuse with respect to the vast majority of these children, is enough to sever parental rights.
Whoa.
I’m certainly not arguing that, in cases of actual abuse, that children should be taken from their parents. I am, however, arguing, that, not only has the state not only not proven that these 139 mothers (and associated fathers) are abusers, but that they don’t even seem interested in making the effort to prove that any specific mothers and fathers are abusers. To date, it appears that these parents have already been separated from their children without even being allowed to appear in court. Again: parents have already been separated from their children based only on the parent’s association with a particular religion.
I’m not so sure I can imagine anything much more wicked that the state could do, other than, of course, simply burning to death everyone involved and grinding up the charred corpses under tank treads. Of course, I’m happy that this case hasn’t come to that stage ... yet ... but what has already occurred is still pretty bad.
So, again, I’m off the train of support for the State on this one. Based on the article, they’ve just taken a flying leap beyond the line of what is arguably reasonable and just with respect to the individual rights of the people involved with the FCJCLDS. If this merely ends “badly,” I think it’ll be a miracle. I predict that this is going to wind up having long term negative impacts on our society.
Excellent comment. The whole thing.
These parents send their children, some as young as early teens, to marry 50 year old men and let them have sexual intercourse and have babies. They deserve not just to lose their children, but jailed or executed.
“I’m not so sure I can imagine anything much more wicked that the state could do,”
I can. They sit back and let this cult continue to rape and impregnate their children.
I agree fully with what you have said.
It seems to me that if the state intends to pursue this madness to its full conclusion, that many of the children will be adults by the time the hearings, appeals, and lawsuits are finally at an end.
I completely agree!
The precedent that this sets is horrific. Will other members of other Christian religions be in danger of losing their children because of an anonymous phone call?
Also....Do you want to bet that the state authorities will turn a blind eye to **documented** Muslim abuses where **real** evidence exists?
According to the CDC, 11.7% of teens were pregnant in the general population in the U.S. while 3.7% of teens 13-17 were pregnant.
With a reported 15-20 teens pregnant out of the 416 forcibly removed from their homes in Texas the pregnancy rate for these girls could be stated as 3.6-4.8 percent, roughly the same as the nation as a whole.
Why doesn’t the state take away all the children?
And the citizens of the State of Texas will pay heavily for the incompetence.
The really sad thing is that the abusers will most likely get off scot-free.
L
The total bitch of the situation is that you are correct. I have zero sympathy for these pedophiles, but a horrible precedent is being set here.