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Growing numbers seeking permits for concealed handguns (VA)
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | April 11, 2008 | Dave Forster & Kristin Davis

Posted on 04/12/2008 11:54:54 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: Gorzaloon
That's interesting. Thanks.

The reason why I offered that phrase to use is that it seems to be the one that always works. If you narrowly define your needs, as in "I need a handgun permit for self-defense" it makes it easy for them to deny you because you were only specific about one 'need'.

If you get tangled up, it's harder for them to defend themselves under scrutiny if you'd started from a standpoint of 'For every legal thing under the sun that I can possibly think of, and haven't thought of yet'.

I'm not an attorney, but I have used my exact phrase on state and Federal forms without a problem so far where others have run into red tape because they limited themselves with specifics.

21 posted on 04/12/2008 1:04:27 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: neverdem
"I've always felt that was one of the responsibilities of citizenship," Brown said. "Every once in a while, we've got these nut cases that just start shooting people. We would complicate the lives of criminals if we all carried guns."

Yep.
I live in a fairly decent apartment complex, but we do have the occasional home invasion. Other good neighborhoods have seen invasions and murders. As was mentioned, the police can’t be everywhere at once.

22 posted on 04/12/2008 1:28:17 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Tiemieshooz
I will never live in a state where it takes an arm and a leg plus your first born to get a permit.

Even that won't work in Illinois. There are no legal cc permits in that backward state, where I was born many years ago. Tennesee, my current home state, is a far better place to live.

23 posted on 04/12/2008 1:41:43 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: neverdem

Local DC stations are running this story as one about “gun permits”, NOT “concealed weapons permits”.

But Virginia doesn’t have a “gun permit”. Any citizen can buy long guns or handguns upon passing the standard background check (which is instant check, in the store while your wait a few minutes).

What do you expect from the weekend crew.


24 posted on 04/12/2008 1:46:41 PM PDT by angkor
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To: neverdem
Guns should be used only "if you are in fear of your life - period," he said. "Property crimes don't count."

Respectful disagreement here. A dead thief will not steal any more, and will never graduate to worse crimes!

25 posted on 04/12/2008 2:12:20 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: marktwain

Texas will issue too. I tried to get one while I was there but didn’t have enough id. with me. Dumb me, I thought a drivers license would do the trick.

If I get one from another state it will still be worthless in Illinois.


26 posted on 04/12/2008 2:26:46 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: neverdem
People don't have to state a reason when they apply, so no one can say with certainty what's driving the trend.

Common sense is my guess.

27 posted on 04/12/2008 2:44:11 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: maine-iac7
Obama Warns Of ‘Quiet Riot’ Among Blacks We keep this man from power or get ready for the takeover - a hundred years ago, there was the Bolshevik Revolution. We keep this puppet out of the White House, or OUR city squares will run red.

IMHO, I think they'll be amazed at the backlash, if that happens. Obama is toast with spread of his remarks about flyover country. Thanks for the links.

28 posted on 04/12/2008 4:01:38 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
BANG!
29 posted on 04/12/2008 7:11:09 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: maine-iac7

“I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy”?

Damn, now that’s a tagline. LOL


30 posted on 04/12/2008 7:34:50 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: marktwain

“I’m seeking one too. I live in Illinois and it might be a long long time before I find one.”


“Get a Florida permit. You can get one through the mail, and it is good in about 25-30 states.

Cost is about $160 or so. You need to show that you have had some kind of safety training. If you are former military, a DD 214 will do.”

I heard that it can be problematic if you aren’t a resident of the actual state with the reciprocity.


31 posted on 04/12/2008 7:44:07 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: headstamp 2
“I heard that it can be problematic if you aren’t a resident of the actual state with the reciprocity.”

I don't think getting the permit would be the problem, but there are some states that will not honor the permit, unless you are a resident of Florida.
32 posted on 04/12/2008 8:59:40 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Graybeard58

“If I get one from another state it will still be worthless in Illinois.”


That is true. Only police and retired police are honored in all states at this time.


33 posted on 04/12/2008 9:00:47 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: libstripper

Thats what I love about Texas. I’m not even a native here. Its pretty easy to get a permit if you can wade through some paperwork. Also, military pay no fee to get one. Its great and they have gun ranges here like 7-11’s.


34 posted on 04/12/2008 9:23:20 PM PDT by Tiemieshooz (First round is on me)
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