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To: TheZMan

If evolution is true and there is no Creator,

wouldn’t we be required, “ethically”, to kill the unfit?


8 posted on 04/09/2008 7:35:50 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB
If evolution is true and there is no Creator, wouldn’t we be required, “ethically”, to kill the unfit?

Evolution being true is not incompatible with the existence of a Creator.

For the record, Darwin was adamantly opposed to killing the "unfit." I believe his words could also be interpreted to indicate that he was appalled by abortion, which he considered "perverted."

I can put up some quotes if anyone is actually interested in what Darwin thought.

20 posted on 04/09/2008 7:44:31 AM PDT by freespirited (Misery loves company. That's why liberals were created.)
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To: MrB

No.


28 posted on 04/09/2008 8:02:13 AM PDT by tokenatheist (Can I play with madness?)
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To: MrB

“If evolution is true and there is no Creator, wouldn’t we be required, “ethically”, to kill the unfit?’

Perhaps that was Adolph Hilter’s conclusion and excuse for murdering millions of people.


33 posted on 04/09/2008 8:06:22 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: MrB
NO! Artificially killing off "the unfit" is anathema to natural selection. To endorse eugenics is to make a strong statement about the failure of evolution. Eugenics seeks to, by design, artificially alter the balance of the traits inherent in us. Thus, while it is a theory which requires the acceptance of microevolution as a force, it is a hostile response to the "inadequacy" of evolution.

Genetic variation within and between populations is one of the most powerful forms of ammunition needed to rapidly respond to inevitable natural environmental changes. What is a lack of fitness in one set of conditions may be beneficial in another. Evolution does not justify socialist/fascist/communist centralized control of procreation, nor does it justify euthanasia. Quite the contrary.

What evolution justifies, at the political level, if anything, is laissez-faires economics. Sink or swim - no compulsory collectivism (parasitism) to punish the fit for their success or subsidize the unfit for their failure (it is true that we could become maladapted to our environment via dysgenic welfare-state policies).

Note that the individual voluntary charitable notions of Christianity are entirely compatible with this view.

76 posted on 04/09/2008 9:13:02 AM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: MrB

“wouldn’t we be required, “ethically”, to kill the unfit?”

C’mon - that’s just silly.


90 posted on 04/09/2008 9:38:08 AM PDT by NRPM
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To: MrB
If evolution is true and there is no Creator, wouldn’t we be required, “ethically”, to kill the unfit?

No, but if we were all being chased by a large carnivore the unfit would be eaten first.

104 posted on 04/09/2008 10:31:17 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Some people are like slinkys, the idea of them tumbling down a flight of stairs makes you smile.)
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To: MrB

Not at all. If natural selection works at all - and it does - it works by itself; it doesn’t need our help any more than the tides do.


187 posted on 04/09/2008 10:57:25 PM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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To: MrB
"If evolution is true and there is no Creator, wouldn’t we be required, “ethically”, to kill the unfit?"

Let me introduce you to Margaret Sanger........

273 posted on 04/16/2008 10:40:33 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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