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To: charles m
I don't agree. We're talking about a country that doesn't give its people freedom to speak their minds, to worship, to assembly peaceably and to change their rulers. Chinese nationalism isn't the issue. True Chinese understand the Party doesn't represent the Chinese people.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 04/07/2008 1:02:28 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I know that I am not watching them. This again was a monumental mistake to award them the games. When they change their ways then & only then should they get them. What butt kissers we are to these Chi-Coms.


21 posted on 04/07/2008 1:06:29 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: goldstategop; GunsareOK
I don't agree. We're talking about a country that doesn't give its people freedom to speak their minds, to worship, to assembly peaceably and to change their rulers. Chinese nationalism isn't the issue. True Chinese understand the Party doesn't represent the Chinese people.

Short of us invading China, how do you think anything will change in China? While I agree with you fully on China's faults, nothing is going to change unless the Chinese middle class grows, and overthrows or reforms their government themselves. And that's not going to happen if we boycott the Olympics or stop trade with the Chinese. When the rights of a sizable Chinese middle class get infringed upon, that's when real change will occur in China. Otherwise it's just useless PR posturing on our part, something the Dems are particularly fond in.

The Chinese middle class is growing (rapidly), it just hasn't reached critical mass yet in a country of 1.3 billion people.
24 posted on 04/07/2008 1:16:40 PM PDT by charles m (Ask not what what your country can do for you; ask what you can do to make Michelle Obama proud.)
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To: goldstategop
"I don't agree. We're talking about a country that doesn't give its people freedom to speak their minds, to worship, to assembly peaceably and to change their rulers.

Sounds like just about any U.S. University or Al Gore's AWG cult.

25 posted on 04/07/2008 1:19:49 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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