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"Touch screen voting is stupidly expensive"
The Inquirer (UK) ^ | Monday, 07 April 2008 | Egan Orion

Posted on 04/07/2008 7:37:58 AM PDT by lifelong_republican

"The costs are staggering."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: america; american; ballot; election; johnnyonenote
Americans shouldn't have to give up real ballots at all, much less overpay exhorbitantly to give up their representation in government.
1 posted on 04/07/2008 7:37:58 AM PDT by lifelong_republican
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To: lifelong_republican

a Simple solution...
We already have the system in place.
Would require no hardware.
Only a minor software program.

Use ATM’s as voting machines. They are everywhere, they are secure, they naturally verify your identity, they are handicapped accessible. The information would be instantly tablulated.


2 posted on 04/07/2008 7:42:37 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Walkingfeather

That’s the most ingenious idea I’ve seen in a while now. Thank you.


3 posted on 04/07/2008 7:47:49 AM PDT by TheZMan (What is happening to Texas.)
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To: Walkingfeather

That’s an interesting idea, but it’d require sufficient auditing to be trustable, as they’re not invulnerable.

http://www.celent.com/PressReleases/20040712/ATM.htm


4 posted on 04/07/2008 7:47:52 AM PDT by lifelong_republican (Real Americans: Real Ballots)
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To: lifelong_republican

The best way to go has always been a ballot on one sheet of heavy paper that can be machine collated scanned and tallied


5 posted on 04/07/2008 7:48:51 AM PDT by dennisw (Superior attitude. Superior state of mind --- Steven Segal)
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To: Walkingfeather
The information would be instantly tablulated.

There's the Achilles Heel in your plan. Any plan that makes results instantly available makes padding the vote count impossible. Thus democrats will oppose it.

6 posted on 04/07/2008 7:51:04 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: dennisw

You’re absolutely right about a tangible physical ballot. The ballots should be hand-counted in public view, though, with opscans only for preliminary tabulations since the opscan equipment can be manipulated.


7 posted on 04/07/2008 7:51:36 AM PDT by lifelong_republican (Real Americans: Real Ballots)
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To: dennisw

I think you are right.

I have been a huge fan of the touch screens but too many people just don’t have confidence in them. If the optical scanners are cheaper, we might as well go back to them for that reason too.


8 posted on 04/07/2008 7:55:35 AM PDT by freespirited (Misery loves company. That's why liberals were created.)
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To: lifelong_republican

Here’s how stupid the preliminary runs (past 2 elections) have been in my precinct (touch-screen optional for those who want to be venturesome and try it:

An attendant watches you vote, in case you have any questions. I felt as if I were being violated. I know they meant well, as they saw my grey hair (what there is of it) and probably assumed I’d be one of those oldsters who are intimidated by technology. But I resented it just the same, despite their probable good intentions.


9 posted on 04/07/2008 7:59:40 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great...(until it happens to YOU).)
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To: lifelong_republican

All this because Florida wouldn’t upgrade their voting equipment to 1970’s-era technology (optical scanners).


10 posted on 04/07/2008 8:27:07 AM PDT by gunservative
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To: lifelong_republican

The most reliable ar the optical scanners with little boxes you fill in.

The touch screens are a $15,000 soltion for a $.25 problem.


11 posted on 04/07/2008 8:27:47 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: dennisw
The best way to go has always been a ballot on one sheet of heavy paper that can be machine collated scanned and tallied

That is what we have here in Dallas and it works great with few to no complaints.

12 posted on 04/07/2008 8:36:24 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Of course they would. But anything that doesnt allow them to cheat they would oppose. It doesnt mean the idea does not have merit.


13 posted on 04/07/2008 9:35:18 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: Migraine

You make an excellent point. The same exact thing happened at the polls here. The election judge and the ‘technician’ walked back and forth behind all the voters, looking at their screens.


14 posted on 04/07/2008 10:46:10 AM PDT by lifelong_republican (Real Americans: Real Ballots)
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To: gunservative

The opscans are problematic, too, as they can be subjected to undetectable tampering.


15 posted on 04/07/2008 10:47:22 AM PDT by lifelong_republican (Real Americans: Real Ballots)
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To: TexanToTheCore

You make a great point about the huge expense for the small problem, certainly. Opscans could be used for rapid but preliminary tallies, but since they can be rigged, the final counts should be done by hand under public observation.


16 posted on 04/07/2008 10:49:55 AM PDT by lifelong_republican (Real Americans: Real Ballots)
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To: gunservative

actually, because heavily democrat districts used a punch card system that was condusive to fraud via prepunched and physical manipulaiton.


17 posted on 04/07/2008 11:07:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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