In The Reign Of The Black Pharaohs

Al-Ahram ^ | 4-4-2008 | Mohamed El-Hebeishy

[blam]

Professor Robert Schoch, in his book, Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders, states that Mexico has more pyramids that all the rest of the world combined.

[blam]

GGG Ping.

[Slump Tester]

I've heard of this guy, but I don't know about any black Pharoahs.

[SolidWood]

I thought this was about Obama...

[blam]

Shaft
(Isaac Hays)

[BlueDragon]

According to Obama’s pastor, Jesus was a poor black child, oppressed by white people doing what they do -— oppress poor black childs.

[Wilhelm Tell]

There is an article called “The Black Pharoahs” in the February 2008 issue of National Geographic. Egypt has a long history of being taken over and ruled by foreigners.

[Riverman94610]

There was much racial mixture throughour Egypt’s history due to their proximity with Nubia and the region below that.
I think what confuses people when they hear the term,”Black Phaeroes”is they think of people who look like modern Nigerians.Yet because they didn’t look like say,Kunta Kinte,didn’t mean that they looked like Yul Brynner either.
A lot of Egyptians I know look rather similiar to Barak Obama or a light skinned version of Mike Tyson.

[MichiganMan]

There is an article called “The Black Pharoahs” in the February 2008 issue of National Geographic. Egypt has a long history of being taken over and ruled by foreigners.

The best answer I've heard to question of "Were the Egyptian Pharaohs white or black?" was "Yes"

Egypt was multi-ethnic. Sometimes the pharaohs were white, sometimes black. A clear example is the twenty-fifth dynasty (780-685) when Egypt was under control of the Nubians.

Cleopatra, (there were many Cleos, THE Cleopatra commonly referred to was Cleo VII) Egypt's last Pharaoh, was certainly white. She was a Greek of the Ptolemy line. Of her ancestral line, only one remains unclear in ethnicity, her grandmother. And even that is mitigated by the perception of the Ptolemy's and the Greek in general as disdainful of the native Egyptian population.

[Between the Lines]

[SunkenCiv]

Black Pharaohs
National Geographic | February 2008 | Robert Draper
Posted on 01/21/2008 2:49:03 PM EST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1957204/posts

[Between the Lines]

[SunkenCiv]

Statue of Pharaonic queen discovered in south Egypt
(Queen Tiy, wife of Pharaoh Amenhotep III)
AP on Yahoo | 3/22/08 | AFP
Posted on 03/22/2008 4:48:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1990075/posts

[SunkenCiv]

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[MrDaddyLongLegs]

Wow Pyramids on Mars, they were right, wheres the face

[norton]

Maybe should have been subtitled "which country had the most itty-bitty piramid shaped grave stones?"
My garage has four walls and a roof - I don't often compare it to Mount Vernon.

As to the history presented in the ariticle:

"Kushite holy priests used to hold unlimited power, to the extent that they were authoritative enough to declare, through claimed divine intervention, that the king's reign should come to an end and he would have to take his own life, a practice better known as Ritual Death. When they approached King Arkamani with such a story, the king simply killed them, banned the ritual and moved the capital.

It's nice to read about reasonable and decisive government for a change.

[Wilhelm Tell]

Thanks for mentioning the period of Greek rule over Egypt. That is an interesting time in history. What a fantastic place Alexandria must have been — this “Greek” city in Africa! It makes me sad to think that a lot of things (writings, inventions, discoveries) were not passed down to us because the records were destroyed.

[gleeaikin]

Interesting bit of history about Egyptian/Nubian relations.

When Tutmosis III died around 1470 BC, after a reign of about 90 years, his successor Amenhotep II immediately had to deal with restless tributary states. There was a well established overlordship in relations to the Middle East, including the areas of Israel and Palestine. When these rebelled, Amenhotep made several annual war trips there to convince them that rebellion was not an option. In the process he brought leaders back to Egypt, beheaded some, hung their bodies over the side of his boats and took trips up the Nile to show the Nubians what happens if you fight Egypt. Things were quiet in Nubia as a result, if I remember correctly.

I have hypothesized that Moses came from the court of Tutmoses III and Hatshepsut the queeen, and fled from Amenhotep II. The 40 years in the desert may have been to avoid capture. Moses could have finally received word that Amenhotep II was dead after a 30 some year reign. Then again he could have earlier fled the court of Tutmoses III after Hatshepsut died and Tutmoses III went on a campaign to eradicate her name and fame, and conquer the Middle East with some 17 campaigns there. Still hunting for info.

[SunkenCiv]

:’) By Hatshepsut’s time, Moses had been dead for centuries.

[gleeaikin]

Hatshepsut’s time was around 1500 BC. She married both her half brother, Tutmoses II and Tutmoses III and ruled for about 20 years. Most arguments I have heard of are between whether Moses was in the reign of Ramases II, or over 400 year after the Abrahamic entry into Egypt and over 400 years before the building of the temple in Jerusalem as counted in the bible. If the bible is accurate, then Ramases II is too late, besides I think he would have crushed any upstart like a bug. Earlier rulers were not as powerful. Also this was closer to the time of Hyksos (or Shepard Kings) which may have come from both east and west, and included enough influence from the Israel/Palestine area to have the 18th Dynasty kings mad at them for several generations, and quite happy to work them as slaves once they regained power around 1580 BC.