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To: Chode
I have a copy of the Oxford University Press 1963 paperback edition (ISBN 0-19-501476-6) but I could not find an electronic version that could be used to extract the basic 13 chapters.

Another very interesting translation and reinterpretation is the one by J.H. Huang, a Quill publication, William Morrow & Co (ISBN 0-688-12400-3) It contains two column side-by-side translation and modern interpretation.

You may be interested in the treatise by Gen Tao Hanzuang (Peoples Liberation Army, retired) translated by Yuan Shibing, published by Main Street, a division of Sterling Publishing, New York (ISBN 1-4027-1291-X) This is a translation of a modern Chinese interpretation.

14 posted on 04/05/2008 7:11:31 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive
Just finished a translation by Ralph Sawyer.

When these principles are applied to the current conflicts in Iraq, the enemies tactics make perfect sense. I am concerned about the degree to which spies and insurgents may have penetrated the army and police forces.

One way a smaller army defeats a larger one is to penetrate deeply into the government to learn its plans. When they turn they sow seeds of doubt that lead to defeat.

22 posted on 04/05/2008 8:32:12 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( Who is America's George Galloway?)
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To: Clive

You can find three free translations including the Lionel on www.archive.org
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=creator:%22Sun%20Tzu%22

I prefer The Art of War: The Denma Translation (Shambhala Library) personally, compared to a 1950’s translation I read when in college.


27 posted on 04/05/2008 9:09:01 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Clive
Image hosted by Photobucket.com i wasn't criticizing... i think this is the best short xlation i've seen.

just thought you'd might like a look at the Col's version.

i will have to look at the volumes you listed too. thx.

30 posted on 04/05/2008 10:33:30 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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