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McPeak's remarks under fire
The Oregonian ^ | March 27, 2008 | JEFF MAPES

Posted on 04/03/2008 4:15:18 PM PDT by Nachum

Retired Air Force Gen. Merrill "Tony" McPeak of Lake Oswego was once again in the middle of a campaign flap Wednesday when Hillary Clinton's campaign questioned his role as an adviser to Barack Obama because of his views on Israel.

McPeak, known for his sharp tongue, stood by his position that U.S. policy in the Mideast is influenced by pro-Israeli voters, but he did apologize for last week's comment accusing former President Clinton of McCarthyism.

An Obama spokesman said the senator disagrees with McPeak's comments on Israel but continues to stand behind him as a military adviser and co-chairman of his campaign.

McPeak, who served as Air Force chief of staff from 1990 to 1994, became a hot subject in the political blogosphere after The Atlantic Monthly's Marc Ambinder reported that the Clinton campaign circulated an article from the conservative American Spectator harshly criticizing the retired general.

The article zeroed in on a 2003 interview of McPeak with The Oregonian in which he said that the United States failed to push Israel for the territorial concessions he said were necessary for peace. When asked where the problem was, McPeak replied, "New York City. Miami. We have a large vote . . . here in favor of Israel. And no politician wants to run against it."

The American Spectator article goes on to accuse McPeak of being an "anti-Israel and anti-Jewish 'adviser.' "

On Wednesday, McPeak said he worked closely with the Israeli military as an Air Force officer and considers himself a strong ally of Israel. But, he added, "the way to get to peace is to find some way out of the box canyon that Israel has built for itself with the West Bank settlements. . . . And it is just a fact that the Israeli vote -- or the Jewish vote -- is something that all politicians have to consider."

During Obama's visit to Oregon last week, McPeak told reporters he strongly objected to a statement by former President Clinton that a campaign between his wife and John McCain would involve "two people who loved this country."

McPeak said it "sounds more like Joe McCarthy." McPeak said he was still critical of Clinton's remarks but conceded that "perhaps the comparison with McCarthy was not appropriate."

Earlier this year, McPeak retracted a statement that Obama "doesn't go on television and have crying fits," a reference to Hillary Clinton tearing up in a New Hampshire appearance.

Clinton spokesman Isaac Baker released a statement saying, "General McPeak has shown a troubling pattern of personally attacking the Clintons that raises serious questions. Is the Obama campaign really committed to changing the tone of our politics, or are those just words?"

Obama spokesman Nick Shapiro said, "Neither Senator Clinton nor Senator Obama agrees with every position their advisers take" and Obama disagrees with what McPeak said about the power of pro-Israeli voters.

Jeff Mapes: 503-221-8209; jeffmapes@news.oregonian.com


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antisemite; fire; mcpeak; remarks; under

1 posted on 04/03/2008 4:15:18 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum; Fedora

“On Wednesday, McPeak said he worked closely with the Israeli military as an Air Force officer and considers himself a strong ally of Israel. But, he added, “the way to get to peace is to find some way out of the box canyon that Israel has built for itself with the West Bank settlements. . . .”

Right...it’s all about the settlements. Not Arafat wanting to keep control, not Hamas, etc. This is a classic “If only Israel would do “x” there would be peace.” Not only is it wrong, it’s childish, primitive.

“”And it is just a fact that the Israeli vote — or the Jewish vote — is something that all politicians have to consider.””

As if only jewish Americans “support” Israel.

Joe Wilson redux, without the verbal skills.


2 posted on 04/03/2008 4:19:30 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Nachum

McPeak fits right in the unholy triangle of Hussein Obama/Samma, Wright and McPeak.


3 posted on 04/03/2008 4:20:50 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: Nachum

Typical Klintonian move - call everyone else racist, bigot, anti-semite.

If they get the nomination, they would get the Presidency and another 8 years of Conservative Demonization.

They would be rejuvinated as Lewinsky really put them in the bind in their second term and they had lost Congress in first term.

This time Republicans overall are weak anyway and do not control Congress. What Klintons would this time around should send shivers down people’s spine. They even have Patriot Act they can use to employ their Scorch-Earth policy.


4 posted on 04/03/2008 4:22:03 PM PDT by The_Republican (Ovaries of the World Unite! Rush, Laura, Ann, Greta - Time for the Ovulation!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Don’t forget Rep Jim Moran (Va-8), Pat Buchanan, and Ron Paul.


5 posted on 04/03/2008 4:23:11 PM PDT by Perdogg (Reagan would have never said "She's my girl")
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To: Perdogg

Those make up the unreal triangle that ignores reality for some wild theories/mantras.


6 posted on 04/03/2008 4:28:08 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: Nachum
This is the kind of General that an old WWII (now departed) fighter pilot friend used to say that needed to be put against the wall and...

LLS

7 posted on 04/03/2008 5:10:56 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Could I ever vote for mcstain? osamabama hussein may convince me yet!)
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To: Nachum

I was active duty Air Force while McPeak was Chief of Staff. I thought he made some poor decisions back then. Apparently, he’s still at it.


8 posted on 04/03/2008 7:27:46 PM PDT by News Junkie (Faith and Reason)
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To: Nachum

wow! McPeak hails from the General George McClelland wing of the democrap party...

History repeats itself. What is it about demorats and pussy general officers?


9 posted on 04/03/2008 9:32:06 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: Grampa Dave
"McPeak fits right in the unholy triangle of Hussein Obama/Samma, Wright and McPeak."


You are so right about that.
That man nauseates me.

I'm so glad I was out of town when he, Obama, and Richardson were fouling the air here.

10 posted on 04/03/2008 9:41:40 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Renegade conservative, now registered as a 'Rat, in support of Operation Chaos.)
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To: Dick Vomer; dixiechick2000; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; SierraWasp; tubebender; george76; PhilDragoo

“wow! McPeak hails from the General George McClelland wing of the democrap party...

History repeats itself. What is it about demorats and pussy general officers?”

Democrats hate America and Democrat Flag Officers really hate America, their peers and themselves for being high ranking officers in the military.

In the cold war, people, who hated America or were communists couldn’t stay in the military nor get a security clearance. Thanks to Carter and Clintoon, they became Admirals and Generals, who hate America. Or they became Senators/Congressits like Kerry, Hagle, Murtha, McDermott, Thompson and other America hating rats who were in the military.


11 posted on 04/04/2008 7:24:23 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: Grampa Dave; dixiechick2000; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; gonzo

12 posted on 04/04/2008 8:24:20 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
That is a great question, and one Hussein ObamaSamma needs to answer.


13 posted on 04/04/2008 8:35:10 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: Nachum; Fred Nerks

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1996566/posts

The Brzezinski/Obama Axis
28.Feb-2008 | Professor Paul Eidelberg

Posted on 04/04/2008 4:38:39 AM PDT by Fred Nerks

I. Who is Zbigniew Brzezinski?

It was reported in The New York Sun on February 15 that Barack Hussein Obama has chosen Zbigniew Brzezinski to advise him on Middle East policy.

Back in 1985, I wrote an article on Brzezinski for The Intercollegiate Review. Before citing some of the more relevant passages of that article, it should be borne in mind that Brzezinski, a political scientist, served as President Jimmy Carter’s national security adviser. One does not have to read Carter’s Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid to know that Carter is an anti-Semite. Brzezinski has earned the same reputation.

Not only has Brzezinski publicly defended the anti-Semitic canard that the relationship between America and Israel is the result of Jewish pressure, but he also signed a letter demanding dialogue with Hamas, whose charter calls for Israel’s destruction. It behooves us to understand the mentality of Obama’s Middle East adviser—and more deeply than our so-called experts.

Long before he became Mr. Carter’s national security adviser, Brzezinski rejected what he and most political scientists term the “black-and-white” image of the American and Soviet political systems. “This image,” he says, “is held by traditional anti-Communists.” Brzezinski thus affirmed he is not quite an anti-Communist. In fact, he deplores anti-Communism as “a relic of the Cold War, of the age of ideology.”

Not only did Brzezinski reject the “black-and-white” image of the American and Soviet forms of government, he rejects the very notion of good and bad regimes! If you are shocked by Brzezinski’s moral relativism, ponder Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s confession in an interview with Ha’aretz in 2002 that his son Omri taught him “not to think in terms of black and white”—a statement uttered while suicide bombers were reducing Jews to body parts.

The influence of political scientists like Brzezinski is wide and deep. His moral relativism or neutrality prompts politicians to negotiate with and appease terrorist regimes. Mr. Obama may not be a moral relativist, but with Brzezinski as his adviser, he will be more disposed than other presidential candidates to appease Iran. Nor is this all.

With Brzezinski advising him, Obama’s chant about “change” may be more serious and insidious than Hillary’s silly utterances. He may have in mind changing the fundamental character of the American regime. That would fit well with the designs of one of his backers, billionaire George Soros, a globalist committed to the termination of the nation-state and the ascendancy of world government.

Since Brzezinski is a moral or historical relativism, he denies the existence of objective or transhistorical standards for determining whether the way of life of one nation, group, or individual is morally superior to that of another. (The members of the UN General Assembly would be pleased to hear this, despite the UN’s notorious record of condemning Israel without having ever condemned an Arab or Islamic terrorist state.)

Brzezinski’s relativism makes him a “weather-vane” political scientist. He urns with the winds of power; he is nothing if not “politically correct.” Working in a pluralistic and egalitarian country like America—a secular society—he conveniently adopts tolerance as his operational principle on the one hand, and equality as his primary value on the other. He is quite at home with the moral equivalency that has shaped US foreign policy toward Israel and Islamic dictatorships.

Brzezinski views history through the lens of Marxism, which, despite its atheism, has much in common with Islam. Both Communism and Islam are universalistic ideologies that reject the idea of the nation-state. Both do not regard adherence to treaties between nations as obligatory. Both Communism and Islam are militaristic and expansionist creeds that do not recognize international borders. Brzezinski’s globalism has become evident in Jimmy Carter. Under Brzezinski’s influence, Carter lowered the defense budget and pursued a soft line toward the Soviet Union. We can expect an Obama White House to pursue a very soft line toward Islam.

II. Iran’s Vision: A World Without Israel and the United States

With Zbigniew Brzezinski as his national security adviser, it was Jimmy Carter who facilitated the return of Ayatollah Khomeini to Iran. The Carter-Brzezinski axis is very much responsible for the Islamic revolution—the most dangerous revolution that has occurred in human history, a revolution that threatens the existence of every nation-state.

As a crypto-Marxist, Brzezinski deplores the nation-state. His book Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era, declares that “With the splitting and eclipse of Christianity man began to worship a new deity: the nation. The nation became a mystical object claiming man’s love and loyalty. The nation-state along with the doctrine of national sovereignty fragmented humanity. It could not provide a rational framework within which the relations between nations could develop.” Brzezinski sees the nation-state as having only partly increased man’s social consciousness and only partially alleviated the human condition.

“That is why Marxism,” he contends, “represents a further vital and creative stage in the maturing and man’s universal vision.” Marxism, he says, “was the most powerful doctrine for generating a universal and secular human consciousness.” Embodied in the Soviet Union, however, Communism became the dogma of a party and, under Stalin, “was wedded to Russian nationalism.”

Although Brzezinski poses as a humanist, he makes a most inhumane statement by saying that: “although Stalinism may have been a needless tragedy, for both the Russian people and Communism as an ideal, there is the intellectually tantalizing possibility that for the world at large it was … a blessing in disguise.” Ponder this shocking statement about Islam or of Islamic imperialism. Yes, it slaughtered more than 200 million people, but Islam brought hundreds of Christian, Jewish, Zoroastrian, Hindu, and Buddhist communities under a single universal vision, that of the Quran.

Brzezinski, a self-professed secularist, is an internationalist whose moral relativism contradicts the moral law or natural rights doctrine of America’s Declaration of Independence. His relativism and internationalism contradict the teachings of the America’s Founding Fathers, who endowed the United States with a national identity and character, the same that animated Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt. To put it more bluntly: Brzezinski’s mode of thought or political mentality—like that of countless other American academics—is anti-American. An Obama-Brzezinski axis has revolutionary significance. It might accelerate the de-Americanization and decline of the United States.

This development has its parallel in the de-Judaizing of Israel’s Third Commonwealth. Israel’s ruling elites, beginning with President Shimon Peres, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livini, Education Minister Yuli Tamir—and let’s not forget Israel’s erstwhile and still influential Supreme Court president Aaron Barak—have the same basic mentality as Brzezinski. The mere fact that they are multiculturalists committed to transforming Israel into “a state of its citizens” means that they are only nominal Jews, that just as Brzezinski is, in principle, anti-American, so they are, in principle, anti-Israel or anti-Jewish!

But let us not be misled by the term “multiculturalism.” Multiculturalism means nothing less then the end of the nation-state system that has prevailed for almost four centuries. The nation-state obtained a monopoly of political power. Power abhors a vacuum. Terminate the nation-state and you are heading for world government. But a world government must also have a monopoly of power. Its agents must be everywhere, to make sure that no opposition group in any country secretly develops weapons of mass destruction. A world government must have the equivalent of the KGB in every country. A world government would be the greatest tyranny in human history.

Israel is the target of all those who oppose the nation-state if only because the Bible of Israel not only prescribes a multiplicity of nations, but a moral code that contradicts the moral relativism of the Brzezinskis and of Israel’s ruling elites.

Will Israel be the target of “change”—the mantra of the Democratic Party chanted most ominously by Barack Hussein Obama?


14 posted on 04/04/2008 9:07:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: Grampa Dave
Brother! You been puttin out some really good stuff on the potential Obamonation unfolding before our eyes the last couple of days!!! Attention grabbing, entertaining and informative!!!

Loose lips ain't the only things that sinks ships! Sometimes it's loose brains, too!!! They really are trying to "bring it all down, man!"

15 posted on 04/04/2008 9:25:48 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Out of the dung of adversity, spring the seeds of opportunity! America will always be exceptional!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

The General McPeak and Zbigniew Brzezinski connections with Hussein ObamaSamma are serious flags. These a%%holes hate a strong America and hate Israel even more.

Israel will not stand by and be eliminated if Hussein ObamaSamma is elected. They will take out the vile political heads of Syria and Iran before Obama can start his destruction of Israel.


16 posted on 04/04/2008 9:51:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Hussein ObamaSamma's Pastor, Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11")
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To: Shermy

Thanks for the ping. You make an interesting point worth reflecting on: Joe Wilson managed to get away with saying essentially the same thing, he just managed to use his diplomatic weasel-wording skill to cloak it enough to avoid the type of flak McPeak is getting. Wilson’s is the much more dangerous variety of anti-Semitism that thrives in the diplomatic circles at the State Department and the UN, where anything can be rationalized as long as it masquerades under politically correct names—and so we get things like putting Syria in charge of “human rights” committees.


17 posted on 04/04/2008 3:50:52 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: PhilDragoo; Grampa Dave

Bumping both of your posts!

Excellent!


18 posted on 04/04/2008 8:58:30 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Renegade conservative, now registered as a 'Rat, in support of Operation Chaos.)
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To: Fedora; Shermy
Good points - but think of the incredible irony of the Clintonistas circulating an article from the American Spectator to do their work on McPeak..... maybe we should roll out a collection of the "greatest hits" of Am. Spectator articles on the Clintonistas (and let's not forget that Joe and Valerie Wilson are big Hillary supporters who did campaign work for her in PA recently, so she is open to the same criticism as Obama):

"the Clinton campaign circulated an article from the conservative American Spectator harshly criticizing the retired general"
19 posted on 04/06/2008 4:24:19 PM PDT by Enchante (Hillary: I brought peace to Northern Ireland, I dodged sniper bullets in Bosnia....... HUH???)
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To: Enchante

Yes, there’s lots of irony there!


20 posted on 04/07/2008 7:01:40 PM PDT by Fedora
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