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Marine Charges 'Mistake,' Lawyer Says(Haditha)
newsmax.com ^ | March 29, 2008 4:54 PM | Nat Helms

Posted on 03/30/2008 7:00:47 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: connetquotrd; RedRover; smoothsailing

Thank you for that post and for everything you’ve done for these Marines!


61 posted on 03/30/2008 10:38:05 AM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: jazusamo
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Murtha Could Not Be Reached For Comment

62 posted on 03/30/2008 11:14:13 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: river rat
“I for one, will not be happy until that %$#$ $#%^$#^% Murtha POS is impaled upon a 50 pole in front of the White House.”

I am not, and never have been, a Marine, but quite frankly that image brought a smile to my face. Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to be made happy on this deal. I'll settle for all the Marines involved getting acquitted, or at least their charges dismissed with prejudice, like Tatum's.

WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

63 posted on 03/30/2008 11:23:37 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: Lancey Howard
I hate to think about Matthis like that, but it really does seem like he was paid to walk away...or go down with them.

Whichever, this'd be a good time for him to retire and write a book blowing this thing wide open, so that it never happens again.

64 posted on 03/30/2008 11:27:49 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (defendourtroops.org defendourmarines.org Congratulations LCpl Tatum!)
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To: river rat
Secondary to that - but a reality - this case involved Marines.. We are a very small but devoted brotherhood.....and to have Murtha slander “his own” in this manner, raised a lot of blood lust.

Not only that, but when you mess with a Marine, you mess with his or her whole family. Cindie

65 posted on 03/30/2008 11:53:19 AM PDT by gardencatz (My son is learning Arabic so you don't have to...oorah!!!)
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To: brityank

How do we get an EARMARK to reimburse these Marines and their Families for the egregious costs they have been forced to bear by an out-of-control propaganda-fueled prosecution pursued by an over-reaching home-grown insurgent gang in our government?
How do we get their good name back ? These men are owed a debt from all AMERICANS . Semper Fi


66 posted on 03/30/2008 12:00:42 PM PDT by gunner03 ("03" Mustang)
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To: 4woodenboats

Mattis had an easy choice to make when Ware recommended dismissing the charges. Mattis instead made a head-shakingly disappointing choice and ended up with a fourth star. No matter what the truth is, that looks really, really bad.


67 posted on 03/30/2008 12:00:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: connetquotrd

Your opinion on Post #14?


68 posted on 03/30/2008 12:24:26 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: Lancey Howard

It may not have been his choice.


69 posted on 03/30/2008 12:25:34 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: lilycicero
Maybe he was reading your posts.

LOL. I kinda doubt it. But the Defend our Marines site, Nat Helms, NewsMax, and the Frontline documentary have presented another side of the Haditha story, that the Marines or the media never did. It changed the tide, IMO.
70 posted on 03/30/2008 12:45:57 PM PDT by Girlene (I'll go fishing any day with Sam!)
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To: RedRover; freema

Thanks for the pings.


71 posted on 03/30/2008 1:02:19 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...)
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To: freema
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72 posted on 03/30/2008 1:05:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Girlene
FRONTLINE bump!


73 posted on 03/30/2008 1:11:56 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: smoothsailing

I’d like one with about 16 teufelhunden on his heels.


74 posted on 03/30/2008 1:29:47 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: RedRover

The comments from Josh White of the Washington Post were the most surprising from the Frontline documentary. His analysis said a lot about how the tide had turned in the media spin cycle. It was always about the Rules of Engagement, not a “Massacre”.


75 posted on 03/30/2008 1:34:50 PM PDT by Girlene (Congratulations, LCpl Stephen Tatum)
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To: freema
I’d like one with about 16 teufelhunden on his heels.

Why send 16 when 1 is more than enough? :-) Photobucket

76 posted on 03/30/2008 1:51:00 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: freema
There's always a choice, but in this case it might have been;

a) Over ride the IO's recommendation, send Tatum to court martial and step aside while the men in black take over - and OBTW, here's a 4th star to take with you.

or

b) Become the 4th senior officer who gets publicly censured, along with a myriad of specious charges for making statements like "It's fun to kill terrorists", threats to bankrupt through litigation just like they did his men, and otherwise play Pin the Tail on the General, leaving him broke and too old to start a career selling shammies on TV.

Maybe he took the offer that Lt. Grayson refused, to fall on his sword for the "good" of the Marines.

I don't know. I don't know how far past Winters this all went - it all started shortly after he was appointed, and he's left a trail that a herd of wild pigs would be proud of.

I always thought dumping Rummy was forced on Bush, as in Reid and Pelosi weren't going to come up with another dime for the war unless Bush dumps him - there may have been other, more dubious conditions, like a Pentagon shadow agency to "clean up" (wipe out) our image in the ME, and now having "forced" these concessions, they are leaking the existence of the "Illegal Rumsfield/Bush Secret Shadow Government" to further undermine our efforts.

It's probably just my imagination, but isn't the MSM and Left side of congress a little slow on the pickup on this Rummy Shadow scandal? If the left didn't have anything to do with it's creation, you'd think they'd be on it like stink on Murtha.

Where's the cries for a full congressional investigation?

Hmmmm

77 posted on 03/30/2008 1:58:14 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (defendourtroops.org defendourmarines.org Congratulations LCpl Tatum!)
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To: RedRover; brityank

That is an awesome list, RR.

I was watching a show on history channel about the Marines in Tarawa (sp) in WWII. In short, they kept firing until they were sure everyone was dead. It was the only way to be safe.

With extremely rare exceptions, it still is.

Assuming an enemy is a prisoner, that a room is clear, that a civilian is harmless, will all get you killed. In the insanity of war, violence is what is sane. The ultimate ethic is to bring yourself and your buddies home alive.

What is insane is sacrificing your life by going soft, so some politician doesn’t lose points in the next opinion poll.


78 posted on 03/30/2008 2:00:51 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: smoothsailing

Just so each one from Haditha and Hamdania gets a fair chance to chew his ass.


79 posted on 03/30/2008 2:00:58 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Cousin, Mom and FRiend)
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To: Lancey Howard

I meant to address 77 to you as well.


80 posted on 03/30/2008 2:01:34 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (defendourtroops.org defendourmarines.org Congratulations LCpl Tatum!)
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