Marine Charges 'Mistake,' Lawyer Says(Haditha)

newsmax.com ^ | March 29, 2008 4:54 PM | Nat Helms

[freema]

GOOD CATCH!!!!!!

[TomasUSMC]

Its funny..............for Miss USA we get 50 choices

For President of the USA

we get two.

[brityank]

Well, now I know where all the driveby's get off with their "24 civilians" claim despite the fact that the identity at least 8 of the 23 known dead was immediately known as insurgent, and the fact that there was intel of an impending ambush involving same Syrian terrorists was previously intercepted from the same 2 sand fleas that sold McGirk his story (explains why they won't publicly ID 'em, too).

Heck, if the Secretary of the Navy is willing to use the insurgent's numbers 22 months after the fact instead of the Marines' own intel, why would any of the gossip rags like Wapo, NYT, or LAT worry about vetting their sources?

GOOD CATCH!!!!!!

I agree that the detail should have shown that there were insurgents in the mix, however strictly speaking they all were "Iraqi citizens", just not all "Iraqi civilians".

HEADQUARTERS MARINE CORPS, Washington D.C. -- Three Marine officers have been administratively sanctioned for their actions associated with the subsequent reporting and investigation of the deaths of 24 Iraqi citizens in Haditha, Iraq, on Nov. 19, 2005.

TIME and McGirk were the ones that labeled them as 24 innocent Iraqi civilians, and the SJAs, JAG, and NCIS, along with Winter and his scummy crew in DoD failed miserably to correct that initial mistake, and indeed maintained the fiction.

[Marine_Uncle]

"Maybe we should all chip in and buy Winter a clue. Say, that’s really not a bad idea. How’s about a billboard right near his office??????????????????"
Sounds good to me mom. Today. I had off. Still had to go to a store meeting between 8PM-10PM. Now I have to get up at 3:30AM to be in at 5AM. Of lately with car problems and having to purchase a 2004 to replace my old junker, and other gotchas, been off the boards a bit. But thanks for the ping.

[Lancey Howard]

What got me about Conway's statement was that after he gave a lame excuse for handing down letters of reprimand to Marine officers he admits were excellent, loyal Marine officers, he talks about the criminally charged Haditha Marines this way:

"Allegations against all Marines are taken seriously" and ""should not detract from the dedication and sacrifice exhibited by Marines."

Conway then adds:

"The vast majority of Marines continue to serve with bravery, honor, and distinction."

freema, I read that statemnet carefully several times and I can't shake the feeling that those words sound like weasel words to me. It sounds like Conway had already thrown the Haditha Marines under the bus and was telling the world not to let a small handful of bad apples "detract" from the "vast majority" of good Marines.

(Thanks for that link, btw.)

[freema]

Yes, the darling forgot to mention the goodly number that were al Qaeda.

[freema]

Sleep tight!

[freema]

Backhanded is what that is.

[river rat]

" It is sad to see that even the Marine Corps has become polluted by the filthiness of the hate-America crowd."

Perhaps, a few... Almost impossible to avoid...

However - my history and observations to date, permits me to remain confident that at the core it's still the Corps....

I'll patiently await the FINAL decisions and their JUSTIFICATION for whatever decision is handed down before I start losing faith.....

[river rat]

And “air heads” all...

[4woodenboats]

brit, check out all the "unknown persons" SSgt Wuterich was charged with killing - Specification 1) "one or more unknown persons at the taxi", and the now dropped Specification 13 "six unknown persons in House 1" in Red's post 105

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993201/posts?page=125#105

All the other dead persons have names.

If these were all Iraqis, reportedly residents, students, and a really stupid taxi driver, the locals shoulda been able to ID them, no?

If they were the Syrian jihadists that Major Dinsmore had just briefed the platoon about along with intel about a white car whose sudden presence would signal the start of insurgent activity by said Syrian jihadists, it would easily explain why the government (along with our new, shadow government) either can't or is reluctant to name the stiffs.

This would also explain the suitcase with the fake passports, and why the suitcase disappeared while in the custody of the government.

It would also add to the many, many reasons the goverments(all of 'em) so desperately want to keep Major Dinsmore out of the courtroom, and maybe have something to do with why LtCol Sullivan won't let anyone ask Mendoza anything except him.

Just guessing, but I think it'd sure change things if word got out that alot of the stiffs were known Syrian terrorists (and maybe a wife shield and kid shield or two) and the government is trying to keep that under wraps.

[Dick Vomer]

thank you, now I see the wisdom of getting to trial.

Thanks again. I just didn’t figure Mattis for a “ticket puncher”.

[brityank]

I agree; sad to say our whole criminal justice system — both military and civilian — has been undermined by self-serving miscreants. Here in Philly the local DA refused to charge union members caught on TV video tape assaulting peaceful protesters at a clinton campaign stop, and instead brought a case against them.

This Haditha case is the clearest, and cleanest, case of over-reach by an out of control judiciary that I have seen so far, and is emblematic to the entire system. Duke Lacrosse was another, and I hope that the Nazario case will be also. Don’t get me wrong, we have good laws; we’ve allowed bad men to take control of them. Hopefully full exposure will turn most of it around, and they’ll see the folly of using civilian rules in a battlefield scenario.

[Old Student]

“We are now experiencing the consequences of voters who haven’t the common sense or the common good in mind to value their opinion on ANY manner — most especially our political leaders..

If the electorate of today - “feels” the three stooges before us today represents the best among us - it says more about the electorate than I wanted to know!”

See Rome.
See Rome Fall.

Bread and Circuses.

[Old Student]

“Maybe we should all chip in and buy Winter a clue. Say, that’s really not a bad idea. How’s about a billboard right near his office??????????????????’

I can spare a fiver or so for that.

[freema]

I’ll put you on the list if anything comes of it. It’s a short list right now....