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Victim’s kin: Va. Tech families offered money (not to sue)
msnbc ^ | 03242008

Posted on 03/24/2008 7:08:16 PM PDT by monkeycard

RICHMOND, Va. - A relative of a Virginia Tech shooting victim says the families of those killed would receive $100,000 each under a settlement designed to prevent lawsuits. ...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; shooting; vatech; virginia; virginiatech
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1 posted on 03/24/2008 7:08:19 PM PDT by monkeycard
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To: monkeycard

I’m curious as to the basis of their suit, had they actually sued.

While I’d like to see the school sued for creating a gun-free massacre zone, I suspect their suit would be for some other deficiency.


2 posted on 03/24/2008 7:17:02 PM PDT by umgud
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To: monkeycard

I’m curious as to the basis of their suit, had they actually sued.

While I’d like to see the school sued for creating a gun-free massacre zone, I suspect their suit would be for some other deficiency.


3 posted on 03/24/2008 7:17:12 PM PDT by umgud
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To: monkeycard
At a minimum, a million bucks per victim, and the resignation of the entire Board of Visitors, the resignation of the Governor of Virginia, and the firing of each and every individual ranked Assistant Dean or above.
4 posted on 03/24/2008 7:17:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: umgud
I’m curious as to the basis of their suit, had they actually sued.

The basis for their law suit is that the signs saying "GUN FREE CAMPUS" were not large enough, also were not in Korean and Spanish

5 posted on 03/24/2008 7:27:19 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: muawiyah

“At a minimum, a million bucks per victim, and the resignation of the entire Board of Visitors, the resignation of the Governor of Virginia, and the firing of each and every individual ranked Assistant Dean or above.”

Ah, the person who knows nothing speaks again. Every time you post about what happened at Virginia Tech you show your ignorance to all.


6 posted on 03/24/2008 7:46:49 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: gracesdad
You need to learn something Obama is going to learn. Sometimes you have to cut loose your old buddies to avoid throwing your grandma under the bus.

Sure, VA Tech pays the freight, but there are some profound moral issues here that have to be dealt with.

7 posted on 03/24/2008 7:48:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: umgud

“I’m curious as to the basis of their suit, had they actually sued.”

Since no suit has been filed, it’s hard to tell. Any suit would have little to no chance of success anyway.


8 posted on 03/24/2008 7:48:46 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: muawiyah

“Sure, VA Tech pays the freight, but there are some profound moral issues here that have to be dealt with.”

And they would be?

And please explain how firing EVERY person assistant dean and above would address that. Or how Kaine’s resignation would help. Remember that the rules and laws in place concerning guns and mental health were also essentially in place when Allen, Gilmore and Warner were governors. They were also in place throughout the past 10 years or so of Republican control of the GA. Should they all resign as well?


9 posted on 03/24/2008 7:54:16 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: muawiyah

“You need to learn something Obama is going to learn. Sometimes you have to cut loose your old buddies to avoid throwing your grandma under the bus.”

This makes no more sense than all your other statements about VT.


10 posted on 03/24/2008 7:55:44 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: gracesdad
Your relationship to the organization in question is so close that you appear to be unable to be an unbiased, objective witness to anything.

In short, you are so totally irrational about VT there's no sense discssing any aspect of the killings with you.

11 posted on 03/24/2008 7:57:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Who the parents ought to sue (And I think Ho's parents should sue too!) is the Professor Nikki Giovanni. Ho was a English major and in her class. People should read her hate-for-whites poetry & essays. Consider this poem
“The True Import of Present Dialog, Black vs. Negro, by Nikki Giovanni
Ni**er
Can you kill
Can you kill
Can a ni**er kill
Can a ni**er kill a honkie
Can a ni**er kill the Man
Can you kill ni**er
Huh? Ni**er can you
kill
Do you know how to draw blood
Can you poison
Can you stab-a-Jew
Can you kill huh? Ni**er
Can you kill
Can you run a protestant down with your
‘68 El Dorado
(that’s all they’re good for anyway)
Can you kill
Can you piss on a blond head
Can you cut it off
Can you kill
A ni**er can die
We ain’t got to prove we can die
We got to prove we can kill
...............................”
I would think a smart lawyer could point out that material like this could have likely influenced his actions

Here is another example
“....
Also a company called Revolution has just issued
A special kit for little boys
Called Burn Baby
I’m told it has full instructions on how to siphon gas
And fill a bottle
..........”
The majority of her ‘kill-the-honkies’ work is from the 1960s & 1970s. If you ever ask her about this work she laughs and quickly changes the subject.
Look her up on Wikipedia for more examples. (Yes I know that Wikipedia is not definitive!)
She is basically a 60-ish 60’s radical looking forward to a comfortable retirement thanks to the inability of modern society to say Hate is Hate whether it comes out of the moth of a blacks, whites, blues or greens.
I am a 1977 VT grad and I am ashamed that the idiot VT administration asked her to give the convocation at the memorial.

12 posted on 03/24/2008 7:57:47 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily
She sounds positively ghoulish.

Another poster on this thread thinks all of the leadership elite at VT are perfect and without sin.

Is it possible Nikki tracks FR?

13 posted on 03/24/2008 7:59:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: gracesdad
Any suit would have little to no chance of success anyway.

The school's insurance company isn't betting on that, hence the settlement.

The gamble is this: no liability found means the amount is 0 but if a jury feels sympathetic enough, they can hang their hat on anything. The liability amount could be a million per death.

14 posted on 03/24/2008 8:40:26 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: muawiyah

“Another poster on this thread thinks all of the leadership elite at VT are perfect and without sin.”

Thanks for the ping. /s

Please show me where I’ve ever said all the leaders at Tech are perfect and without sin. However, your scorched Earth “solutions” are ludicrous and simpleminded. And your complete confusion about some of the events of April 16 (as evidenced in your posts from months ago) make your opinions on what happened suspect at best.


15 posted on 03/25/2008 5:37:52 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Reily

“Who the parents ought to sue (And I think Ho’s parents should sue too!) is the Professor Nikki Giovanni. Ho was a English major and in her class. People should read her hate-for-whites poetry & essays.”

While I have no use for the poetry you quote, blaming that old poetry and Giovanni for the deaths of 32 people is absurd. Millions of people (or certainly hundreds of thousands) have read that poetry and no others have murdered 32 people. We have another poster on this thread who wants to blame every VT administrator, the board of visitors, the police department, the governor and anybody other than the actual shooter.

So where does the blame lie? Why with the person who killed the 32 people, of course (with some help from a fractured mental health system)!!!


16 posted on 03/25/2008 5:46:22 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: gracesdad

It’s not possible to discuss any of the campus security issues with you.


17 posted on 03/25/2008 5:49:07 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dianna

“The gamble is this: no liability found means the amount is 0 but if a jury feels sympathetic enough, they can hang their hat on anything. The liability amount could be a million per death.”

I’m no lawyer, so I certainly could be wrong here, but I thought the state and “arms of the state” can claim 11th Amendment immunity, making lawsuits difficult.


18 posted on 03/25/2008 5:52:35 AM PDT by gracesdad
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To: umgud

I heard a guy on the radio that said he had a letter on file with his will executor.

It states that if he is killed in a violent incident in any establishment that has a no weapons (guns) policy, that his estate is to sue that establishment for failure to protect him.

Any establishment that has such a policy has the obligation to protect every person in there, as they have abrogated the individual’s right to do so.


19 posted on 03/25/2008 5:55:28 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: muawiyah

“It’s not possible to discuss any of the campus security issues with you.”

Likewise with you. Last time I looked, you were still struggling with the concept of the doors being chained shut. Or the fact that every entity that has looked at this says the VT police department did as good a job as humanly possible once they arrived at Norris Hall.

If you’re referring to carrying guns on campus, I realize that IF somebody had had a weapon, the death toll might have been lower. But nobody did have a weapon and it’s obvious that the law on that isn’t going to change. That’s hardly the basis for a lawsuit or for firing everybody in sight.


20 posted on 03/25/2008 6:02:12 AM PDT by gracesdad
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