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The Mystery of Global Warming's Missing Heat
NPR ^

Posted on 03/19/2008 1:09:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz

Some 3,000 scientific robots that are plying the ocean have sent home a puzzling message. These diving instruments suggest that the oceans have not warmed up at all over the past four or five years. That could mean global warming has taken a breather. Or it could mean scientists aren't quite understanding what their robots are telling them.

This is puzzling in part because here on the surface of the Earth, the years since 2003 have been some of the hottest on record. But Josh Willis at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory says the oceans are what really matter when it comes to global warming.

In fact, 80 percent to 90 percent of global warming involves heating up ocean waters. They hold much more heat than the atmosphere can. So Willis has been studying the ocean with a fleet of robotic instruments called the Argo system. The buoys can dive 3,000 feet down and measure ocean temperature. Since the system was fully deployed in 2003, it has recorded no warming of the global oceans.

"There has been a very slight cooling, but not anything really significant," Willis says. So the buildup of heat on Earth may be on a brief hiatus. "Global warming doesn't mean every year will be warmer than the last. And it may be that we are in a period of less rapid warming."

In recent years, heat has actually been flowing out of the ocean and into the air. This is a feature of the weather phenomenon known as El Nino. So it is indeed possible the air has warmed but the ocean has not. But it's also possible that something more mysterious is going on.

That becomes clear when you consider what's happening to global sea level. Sea level rises when the oceans get warm because warmer water expands. This accounts for about half of global sea level rise. So with the oceans not warming, you would expect to see less sea level rise. Instead, sea level has risen about half an inch in the past four years. That's a lot.

Willis says some of this water is apparently coming from a recent increase in the melting rate of glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica.

"But in fact there's a little bit of a mystery. We can't account for all of the sea level increase we've seen over the last three or four years," he says.

One possibility is that the sea has, in fact, warmed and expanded — and scientists are somehow misinterpreting the data from the diving buoys.

But if the aquatic robots are actually telling the right story, that raises a new question: Where is the extra heat all going?

Kevin Trenberth at the National Center for Atmospheric Research says it's probably going back out into space. The Earth has a number of natural thermostats, including clouds, which can either trap heat and turn up the temperature, or reflect sunlight and help cool the planet.

That can't be directly measured at the moment, however.

"Unfortunately, we don't have adequate tracking of clouds to determine exactly what role they've been playing during this period," Trenberth says.

It's also possible that some of the heat has gone even deeper into the ocean, he says. Or it's possible that scientists need to correct for some other feature of the planet they don't know about. It's an exciting time, though, with all this new data about global sea temperature, sea level and other features of climate.

"I suspect that we'll able to put this together with a little bit more perspective and further analysis," Trenberth says. "But what this does is highlight some of the issues and send people back to the drawing board."

Trenberth and Willis agree that a few mild years have no effect on the long-term trend of global warming. But they say there are still things to learn about how our planet copes with the heat.


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KEYWORDS: globalcooling; globalwarming; junkscience
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We're all gonna fry!!!!

1 posted on 03/19/2008 1:09:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: cogitator

Aw, hell.


2 posted on 03/19/2008 1:09:48 PM PDT by Lazamataz (We're all gonna die!!!!)
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To: Lazamataz; cogitator

He’s still ‘gone fishin’ isn’t he?


3 posted on 03/19/2008 1:11:09 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Lazamataz; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown

New!!: Dr. John Ray's
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The Great Global Warming Swindle Video - back on the net!! (click here)

Ping me if you find one I've missed.



4 posted on 03/19/2008 1:13:11 PM PDT by xcamel (fairtaxers -- don't debate, Denigrate!)
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To: Lazamataz

“That could mean global warming has taken a breather.”

Or it could mean......


5 posted on 03/19/2008 1:13:37 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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"...And it may be that we are in a period of less rapid warming."

maybe even reverse rapid warming, or rapid holding warming levels, or...it's the sun stupid!

6 posted on 03/19/2008 1:16:13 PM PDT by Sax
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To: Lazamataz
"There has been a very slight cooling, but not anything really significant," Willis says. So the buildup of heat on Earth may be on a brief hiatus. "Global warming doesn't mean every year will be warmer than the last. And it may be that we are in a period of less rapid warming."

Don't worry, Obama is here to provide the Hope that this Scientist needs...

7 posted on 03/19/2008 1:17:41 PM PDT by frogjerk (Hope is a theological virtue, not a campaign promise)
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To: Lazamataz

Doubts at National Carbon Credits Radio?

Still pushing false data like temps since 2003.


8 posted on 03/19/2008 1:17:48 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Surprised NRP, which is one of the high churches of Global Warming would even broadcast this stuff.

Expect some editor there to get fired.


9 posted on 03/19/2008 1:18:04 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Lazamataz
... Trenberth and Willis agree that a few mild years have no effect on the long-term trend of global warming. ...

In other words, "Excluding the current data, long-term (30-year) linearizations project 200 degree Summers in 2050. (Mom & Dad, Send more money!)

10 posted on 03/19/2008 1:18:40 PM PDT by TexGuy (If it has the slimmest of chances of being considered sarcasm ... IT IS!)
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To: Lazamataz
Where as all the heat gone?
Talk about credulous nonsense. This was written by an airhead.
11 posted on 03/19/2008 1:18:51 PM PDT by Hans
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To: TommyTrojan

PING for you.


12 posted on 03/19/2008 1:19:11 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Lazamataz

Does anyone have any idea how MUCH heat energy, as calories, would have to be applied to ALL the water in the world, to raise its temperature even one degree, or how much heat energy is lost from the atmosphere through radiation from the night side of the world as it is turned away from the sun?

So far, people, the computer models that claim to predict such things as “runaway” global warming (or cooling, nobody seems to be quite sure) are operating on incomplete data, so a small error means a perhaps HUGE difference in the prediction.

And the engine that drives this heat transfer? Water vapor, which has anywhere from 20 times to as much as a thousand times the effect of carbon dioxide on the “greenhouse gas” effects supposedly observed by the “experts”.


13 posted on 03/19/2008 1:19:22 PM PDT by alloysteel (No provision for ANY political party was ever written in the Constitution)
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To: Lazamataz

An Inconvenient Truth, indeed.


14 posted on 03/19/2008 1:19:45 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: Lazamataz
I read this article earlier today. It mentions a half-inch rise in sea level over four years but cites no source for this claim. The UN, at least in the past, was measuring world sea level at Hong Kong because the island—for geological reasons—is slowly sinking.
15 posted on 03/19/2008 1:20:36 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Lazamataz

bttt


16 posted on 03/19/2008 1:20:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Lazamataz

“One possibility is that”....the whole Global Warming alarmism is scientifically, completely unfounded!!!!


17 posted on 03/19/2008 1:20:53 PM PDT by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: Lazamataz

Don’t tell that to John McCain. He is sponsoring anti carbon/global warming legislation to save us all.


18 posted on 03/19/2008 1:21:22 PM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Lazamataz
"But in fact there's a little bit of a mystery. We can't account for all of the sea level increase we've seen over the last three or four years," he says.

Or the sea floor is rising.

19 posted on 03/19/2008 1:22:02 PM PDT by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Lazamataz

There’s no freakin’ “mystery”. The initial hypothesis of AGW is wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!!

Give back your Nobel prize, Al. You can send me the money for your “carbon credits”, but the prize has to go back.


20 posted on 03/19/2008 1:22:44 PM PDT by Walrus (Those who work should eat better than those who do not)
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