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You Tube: Tent cities have sprung up outside Los Angeles
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Posted on 03/17/2008 9:07:39 PM PDT by Orange1998

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To: durasell; doug from upland; All
"Hey, how dare you show compassion and a potential solution!"

You have the wrong idea about conservatives: Most of the charity and good works in this country don't come from social workers, NGO's, and the rest of the liberal/left, rather they come from people like Doug_From_Upland and his Kiwanis Club, which I assume is made up mostly of business owners, professionals and the like. Conservatives, anotherwords. We've been painted as unfeeling, cold, uncaring, greedy capitalists for so long by the left that we are starting to believe it ourselves!

61 posted on 03/17/2008 10:02:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.fourfriedchickensandacoke.blogspot.com)
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To: atomicweeder
Where I live, I just got an assessment that said my home went UP 12% from last year. How is that possible?

My guess would be that it's easier to up the value then to raise the tax.
I see it as a shadow tax hike. And nobody will complain when re-election comes around.

62 posted on 03/17/2008 10:03:30 PM PDT by MaxMax (I need a life after politics)
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To: Orange1998; Lijahsbubbe; dighton

Looks like a set-up for a class-action lawsuit. All the noise noise noise noise. Can't sleep, can't function, can't work. Might as well toss in "can't breathe".

63 posted on 03/17/2008 10:07:37 PM PDT by Ezekiel
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To: Orange1998

64 posted on 03/17/2008 10:08:48 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It should be an interest breakfast meeting on Tuesday morning. I’m sure the YouTubes will be discussed. We have a retired woman working every day to help the homeless and those less fortunate. There surely is a place in heaven waiting for her.

Are some of these people drug users. Yes. Are some or most of them responsible for their plight because of bad decisions? Yes. But I have never failed to stop my car and help a dog who is out running. How can we turn our backs on fellow human beings?


65 posted on 03/17/2008 10:10:16 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: BunnySlippers

They showed two different ‘homeless’ couples tonight on cable news chanels.

They were deveastated (you should have seen the tears!) because they had to live in a 35’ motorhome, with a full kitchen, bathroom with toilet and shower, and several beds, with a couch, easy chairs and big screen tv.

I wondered, when watching, how families with children must feel, living in a tent, with hundreds of other homeless?


66 posted on 03/17/2008 10:11:05 PM PDT by yorkie (The FEW. The PROUD. The MARINES. Semper Fi)
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To: bboop

This is right next to the Ontario Airport. Some day this land will be used for airport expansion.


67 posted on 03/17/2008 10:13:02 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve seen genuine compassion displayed by people of all political stripes. A relatively new phenom is a rather callous way of saying, “it’s their own damned fault!” rather than, “There but for the grace of god...” Again, displayed by people all all political stripes.


68 posted on 03/17/2008 10:13:31 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Orange1998

In addition to the regular homeless folks, we have canyons in Riverside and San Diego with camps full of illegals.


69 posted on 03/17/2008 10:15:08 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://gokiwanis.org/opk.aspx

If you have never been a part of Kiwanis or another service club, do it. You will feel better than those you help. Really.


70 posted on 03/17/2008 10:21:13 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

I’m always a bit torn on if I’m “enabling” or helping. I continue to move in the direction that I’m helping. I won’t give cash to a homeless person - but do give donations to the Salvation Army, the local Christian Mission Group, etc.

Our church helped with a few meals at a roaming tent city when it was in our neck of the woods. They can stay in an area - usually a church parking lot for a couple of months. It was interesting to hear about it. Very organized, disiplined, etc. The “campers” help with security, litter patrol, laundry, food, cleaning, etc. They follow a strict set of rules, curfews. They have elections to form a self-governing group with outside oversight. They have had a few incidents inside a camp (drugs, fights, etc.) and the cops are called, arrests made and not allowed back in the camp. But the neighborhoods have never been adversly impacted. Opened my eyes quite a bit.

Various homeless gave their reasons for being in a tent city. Many of them are married and shelters are usually just for male or female. Some said some of the shelters downtown were too dangerous. Others said their jobs were here in the suburbs with no shelters nearby, etc.


71 posted on 03/17/2008 10:28:31 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Yes the lazy bum lady that said “ Once I get a full time job, not one where I work one day a week” I’ll be able to save money get a car and make it easy to work.

Thanks to GW’s immigration reforms this white lady has to compete with a guy who will work for 3 dollars a hour from Mexico.

You people make me sick.


72 posted on 03/17/2008 10:31:49 PM PDT by m3d1um
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To: giotto

yep. Most of them are just professional homeless no mistake they are in one of the places with the best weather. Real people who struggle do as you mentioned. Move to a less costly place, get any job they can or move to a place they can get a job and take the least expensive most decent housing they can afford. As a Angeleno and soon to be Santa Barbaran, I noticed there are sure a lot of ‘down and out’ homelessness in the most expensive areas in the world with the best sort of weather and generous rich folk with liberal values. No mistake there.


73 posted on 03/17/2008 10:36:09 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Lazy bums have been around for as long as people. In the early 1900’s, they were called “Hobo’s”. I still call them leaches.

I used to know an old man in his 80's who had retired from a lifetime of working for the railroad. He died about 10 years ago. I asked him if he remembered seeing hobos riding the rails during the Great Depression. He said that there were entire families riding the rails. I do not think that these people were all "leeches".

74 posted on 03/17/2008 10:37:10 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: bboop
OK, we live in LA. This looks like the desert, which stretches for hundreds of miles outside of LA, all the way to Las Vegas. Did the article say where it was?

It was in Ontario, Ca., not LA.

Local news has now reported that many of these people had come come from out of state to squat, and are now being told to go back home, and those remaining were told they could stay only if they could prove they were Ontario residence to begin with.

Some of these people had come as far away as Florida.

75 posted on 03/17/2008 10:41:39 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Orange1998
Very sad. I don't know how many brought it on largely themselves (ie drugs, gambling, etc) but it is hard to imagine that there are not at least some who got sideswiped by injury, illness, death of the breadwinner, or similar. There will always be the professional homeless, and I frankly don't give a damn about them. But for the rest, I think it is entirely appropriate to direct private charitable actions towards bettering their lot and helping them "escape" their predicament.

IMO, a greater share of donations should be directed toward domestic ills instead of international charity. And if the federal government is forced by cosmic powers to waste our tax dollars to get a 10 cent return compared to a private charity dollar, I'd similarly prefer those monies to be spent on the home-front.

Give up on trying to change human nature, you cannot. Ideally, we should be able to say that anyone who is homeless is in that predicament because of their own stubbornly poor choices, and a refusal to mend their ways. I am optimistic that we could get there with voluntarily donated dollars via private charities, but we have to stop wasting resources on the truly self-destructive, and stop trying to solve problems which cannot be solved.

76 posted on 03/17/2008 10:46:08 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: Orange1998

Bums, Inc.


77 posted on 03/17/2008 10:48:01 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: m3d1um
Thanks to GW’s immigration reforms this white lady has to compete with a guy who will work for 3 dollars a hour from Mexico.

And the guy from Mexico manages to have a van, a house and, in a couple years, his own landscaping business, complete with business cards.

If you're looking for an excuse, you'll find one.

78 posted on 03/17/2008 10:51:19 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass

The guy from Mexico still believes in the “American Dream.” So does the guy from India, China, Russia, Africa, etc. who arrives here.

That hope is a fragile thing. People take too many hits and they lose it.


79 posted on 03/17/2008 10:55:55 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
That hope is a fragile thing. People take too many hits and they lose it.

More like, hunger makes people hard; ease makes them soft.

80 posted on 03/17/2008 11:01:10 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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