Posted on 03/16/2008 12:22:13 AM PDT by Red Steel
The Obama camp hotly disputed a claim this week by Galveston County Democratic Chairman Lloyd Criss that on election night, Obama supporters took caucus sign-in sheets to their campaign headquarters and added names to them.
Criss, a Clinton supporter, made the claim earlier this week. But he said that since it didn’t change how many delegates the candidates got, he wasn’t that concerned about it.
But Aaron Schiller, who ran the Obama campaign in Galveston, insisted it didn’t happen.
“He was taking a free shot at us,” Schiller said.
On Friday, Criss said he wasn’t sure that Obama supporters took the sign-in sheet back to their Galveston headquarters. But he said “about 50” names had been added to the sheets after he and his wife counted them just before voting on delegates.
The Obama and Clinton camps continue to dispute the outcomes of some precinct-level caucuses. At stake in them are 67 of Texas’ 228 delegates to the Democratic National Convention.
Overwhelmed by record numbers of participants, the election-night caucuses were marked by widespread confusion. Their results won’t become official until the March 29 county conventions.
In the meantime, party workers are trying to resolve disputes.
In Galveston County, a special committee of Obama and Clinton supporters is checking caucus sign-in sheets against the minutes that were taken and flagging any discrepancies. It will pass those on to a credentials committee to be appointed Tuesday to resolve them.
Criss said that despite election-night problems, the delegate counts for the two candidates wouldn’t change significantly — in Galveston or elsewhere in Texas.
On Friday, though, he objected to Obama supporters taking the results to their headquarters.
“They had no business even putting their hands on them,” he said.
However, he conceded that the person who was elected chair of his precinct was an Obama supporter and as chair was entitled to custody of the caucus paperwork.
Schiller said that before turning it over to Criss, Obama supporters elected to chair 27 caucuses took the paperwork to headquarters to be copied.
“They were not all victories for us,” he said.
However, Schiller said, the Obama campaign in no way altered the documents. It was simply asserting its right under party rules to copy them before passing them on to Criss, he said.
Besides, Schiller said, the system made it extremely difficult to alter the outcome of the caucuses by altering the paperwork.
The numbers of names on caucus sign-in sheets have to correspond to the numbers in the minutes taken at the caucuses.
And the names on those sheets must also be on voter rolls saying they belonged to people registered in that precinct and who voted in the primary.
Those lists were not widely available immediately after the polls closed and the caucuses began.
What’s more, they don’t show which candidate a person voted for, making the business of rigging caucus results by falsely adding names as supporters of one candidate or the other even more unlikely, Schiller said.
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It seems caucuses are more prone to tampering. Hence why the democrats use them and why Obama has the delegate lead.
If a Democrat accuses you of cheating and explains how you did it, you can reast asssure that’s how they do their cheating.
Following the Alinsky teachings, Hillary is sharpening and honing her skills and the skills of her gang that she will need to repeat country-wide as president. Her war with Obomba is the perfect military zone for her campaign, and she will be battle-hardened when she becomes the nominee. She thrives in zones of chaos, and strives to create this chaos to thrive in. Destruction is a good thing in her book, its certainly an express lane to “change”. But, destruction of the ‘Rat party is a mere bag-O’-shells - she is just warming up in the bullpen, getting the fastball into the upper 90’s - so that she is ready for the bigger game to follow.
OTOH, I see her tearing up as being analogous to Islamists lying to infidels.
Apron / dress over a pantsuit, in heels. LOL, Classic Ak class.
Somebody should make a movie about the 2008 DemocRAT Presidential nominating process.
Who could have ever writte a screen play this good?
I wonder how the popcorn futures market is doing these days?
It just cracks me up how openly the media talks about "policial corruption" on the Dem side. After Obama met with the Chicago Trib board this week, all the media picked up their talk about the political sewer in Chicago. Obama responded by pointing out the political corruption in Hillary's New York. All reported with no condemnation, simply a fact. It's very similar to the way the Washington press corps used to gush over how well Bill Clinton lied.
The same is true of the next important state: Pennsylvania. Chris Matthews and others talk openly about the tactics of the political machine in Philly. With Rendell on Hillary's team, that machine will be aimed at Obama. But how will this work out if the heart of the machine (black ministers) turns out to support Obama? Do we see the makings of a train wreck here?
My fondest dream is to see Dems in a knock down drag out fight over VOTE FRAUD! Imagine Obama-supporting ministers not only revealing what happens in this election, but pouring out all the dirty laundry from past elections. Oh man, there's not enough popcorn in the world for that show!
Oop’s. (AR) My government education is showing again.
“Barack Obama either agreed with what was preached from the Trinity pulpit, or he tuned it out and stayed around pretending to for political reasons. To say he stayed for 20 years but doesn't agree with Wright's preaching is incredible denial. It'd be like a man buying White Sox season tickets for 20 years, attending the games, and saying he's not a fan.”
Obama’s supporters want us to ignore this story… just push it under the rug. While they’ll align Republicans with any obscure pastor who does or says something controversial, they’re trying to convince us that Obama’s 20-year long close relationship with Wright, including his effective endorsement of him, his church and rhetoric with a $22,500 donation in 2006 is irrelevant.
“When Obama decided against wearing an American flag pin, we may all have been a bit too quick to accept his rationale, too quick to find that issue unimportant. Now, that American flag pin has gotten a lot bigger for a lot of us, especially in light of what may have been and may still be Obama’s deeper, and, perhaps, secret, less than patriotic beliefs about America.”
“Wright says that blacks can’t be expected to sing God Bless America because of racism. Obama doesn’t salute the flag during the National Anthem. That sure strikes me as an amazing coincidence since Obama swears he never heard Wright say anything against America.”
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