Posted on 03/15/2008 3:32:09 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
In his Friday night cable mea culpas on the incendiary comments made by his spiritual adviser Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., repeatedly said, "I wasn't in church during the time that these statement were made. I did not hear such incendiary language myself, personally. Either in conversations with him or when I was in the pew, he always preached the social gospel. ... If I had heard them repeated, I would have quit. ... If I thought that was the repeated tenor of the church, then I wouldn’t feel comfortable there."
Obama told CNN that he "didn't know about all these statements. I knew about one or two of these statements that had been made. One or two statements would not lead me to distance myself from either my church or my pastor. ... If I had thought that was the tenor or tone on an ongoing basis, then yes, I don't think it would have been reflective of my values."
But according to a New York Times story from a year ago, the Obama campaign dis-invited Wright from delivering a public invocation at Obama's candidacy announcement.
“Fifteen minutes before Shabbos I get a call from Barack,” Wright told the Times. “One of his members had talked him into uninviting me."
In a phone call with Wright, Obama cited a Rolling Stone story, “The Radical Roots of Barack Obama," (the name of which has curiously been changed on the RS website) and told him, according to Wright, “You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we’ve decided is that it’s best for you not to be out there in public.”
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I can see the drudge siren now...
Barack is smart and probably wanted to leave this loony toon “church”
My bet is Michelle kept them there and had their two daughters baptized thee. Michelle got to hang with all her loony friends there too
Barrack was too busy and in Washington DC to change this situation
Did Barrack get baptized there or is he still a crypto Muslim????
Guess he didn’t have any idea about his “church’s” Black Value System either.
Just like BJC didn’t inhale.
And I’ve never seen David Duke in Klan garb but I’m pretty certain from other accounts he’s been associate with them.
Give me a break Obama. After 20 years you knew what kind of rhetoric was preached there. Hell I suspected as much just from looking at the website for the church.
I noticed it is sounding more like he didn’t attend too often. Maybe part of the Easter/Christmas crowd and thats mostly for appearances.
I told you they would nail his butt....they are working the problem as I type.
It’s only splashed all over the TCC website.
One other possibility: Obama witnessed this hate speech but didn't think anything about it because it was the same stuff he heard day after day in his life routine. When it's part of your daily life, red flags are not going to go up when you hear it from the pulpit.
Senator OsamaObama: define "rough"
“Barack Obama either agreed with what was preached from the Trinity pulpit, or he tuned it out and stayed around pretending to for political reasons. To say he stayed for 20 years but doesn't agree with Wright's preaching is incredible denial. It'd be like a man buying White Sox season tickets for 20 years, attending the games, and saying he's not a fan.”
“When Obama decided against wearing an American flag pin, we may all have been a bit too quick to accept his rationale, too quick to find that issue unimportant. Now, that American flag pin has gotten a lot bigger for a lot of us, especially in light of what may have been and may still be Obama’s deeper, and, perhaps, secret, less than patriotic beliefs about America.”
“Wright says that blacks can’t be expected to sing God Bless America because of racism. Obama doesn’t salute the flag during the National Anthem. That sure strikes me as an amazing coincidence since Obama swears he never heard Wright say anything against America.”
we used to call those types “Sprinkle Christians”
the only times they’re in church is to get ,...
#1 sprinkled with Holy Water
#2 sprinkled with rice
#3 sprinkled with dirt
Exactly! Of all of my pastors sermons, I beleve that I would remember the ‘racist’ ones. Try again Barrock, as this story trumps Bill’s “ I never inhaled” lie. I expect more out of the president.
It’s not about sermons. It’s about attitude! You can’t attend a church for 20 years and not catch a whiff of the minister’s attitude.
BTW, why is Mrs. Obama so quiet on this issue?
If he didn’t go to church the day J. Wright preached that sermon, he should have at LEAST gone on the Internet to the website and seen what was going on. It is so absolutely totally disgusting. I can’t believe this kind of stuff goes on in pulpits, and they qualify for a TAX deductions when they so OPENLY endorse their candidate. I’ve known very small churches of WHITE people in New York that lost their case because they paid for an AD in the local newspaper, they lost their tax exempt status. Bill Clinton saw to it that they wouldn’t be able to continue as a 401 (c) non profit religious organization.
And the Republicans dropped Duke like a hot potato; something neither Obama nor the Democrats have the integrity to do.
They put us average folks on juries out here in la-la land and they do it for a reason. cause the political elites have no common sense and us common folk do.
Obama is not going to pass the smell test of us jury-serving folks.
The American public ain’t going to buy that this guy went to this church for twenty years and didn’t know about the lovely Pastor Wright’s fine and loving Christian self and his sweet, inspirational sermons. This might be hard to believe, but a lot of us go to a church and we know damn well that twenty years of attending the same church with the same minister and we’d know everything that pastor was preaching.
Add to it the personal Mrs. Obama-yo-mama and her lack of pride in her country, Obama’s stupid reason for not wearing an American flag pin and that famous pic of him refusing to put his hand over his heart....and...hey....
The American public will find Obama GUILTY.
No matter what lie he says just like the criminal on trial.
Okay...so now that he’s “heard it”, is he leaving the “church” immediately?
Or....is he gonna try to convince everyone that this is the FIRST time in history that his sociopath “preacher” spouted this crap?
Or....did he -sleep- through all the other sermons/private conversations?
It takes a LOT to really, utterly shock me but “God **** America!” sure did it.
[in fact, to the best of my recollection, this is -first- time I’ve ever heard -anyone- actually say that]
Very good, Grampa...especially the last one.
I like your brand of common sense.
If only the Barack zombies could get a transfusion of it!
“Barack Obama either agreed with what was preached from the Trinity pulpit, or he tuned it out and stayed around pretending to for political reasons. To say he stayed for 20 years but doesn't agree with Wright's preaching is incredible denial. It'd be like a man buying White Sox season tickets for 20 years, attending the games, and saying he's not a fan.”
“When Obama decided against wearing an American flag pin, we may all have been a bit too quick to accept his rationale, too quick to find that issue unimportant. Now, that American flag pin has gotten a lot bigger for a lot of us, especially in light of what may have been and may still be Obama’s deeper, and, perhaps, secret, less than patriotic beliefs about America.”
“Wright says that blacks can’t be expected to sing God Bless America because of racism. Obama doesn’t salute the flag during the National Anthem. That sure strikes me as an amazing coincidence since Obama swears he never heard Wright say anything against America.”
Anyone have a link to the video of Obama shaking his head in approval during one of Wright’s speeches? I would love to bookmark that one!
For him to pretend he know nothing of Jeremiah Wright’s comments, especially in light of the association with Nation of Islam moonbat Louis Farrakhan, is an outrage.
You’d better believe he knew about the 9/11 “sermon”.
Louis Farrakhan would have delivered that type of sermon.
obama is full of sh*t ..he knew what this racist is all about..Give me a break man..20 years , no clue ? RIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT..Wife never talked to him about it? Not one article on this guy ever reached him? Why is it that I can ask these questions but not ONE reporter has the balls to ask him point blank and blunt these same questions. This fraud Obama can be brought down right now .Why isn’t Mc Cain asking him these questions? where is anyone from OUR SIDE on this ? I’m disgusted . If Obama was a white guy or Republican there would be riots in the streets , the Dems would hold a special session of congress to hang him in public and Larry King would have every senator on calling for his resignation..But we’ll just sit here and let this BIG BIG BIG opportunity slip by. This is the shot folks . We can get rid of Obama BEFORE he becomes president /
It only takes one sentence or really one word.
How could he go to that church for 20 years, and not know Wright’s reputation?
“It only takes one sentence or really one word.”
Yup.
“Pogrom” or “jihad”, for example.
I am looking for something that can be used to educate those who might give this 5 minutes of their time before drinking the kool-aid. Most folks won't spend more than that, I am afraid.
that is an excellent assortment Grandpa Dave.
Of all of my pastors sermons, I beleve that I would remember the ‘racist’ ones.
You are so right. I will never forget when my former pastor referred to Abednigo as “a big negro”. He was expecting to get a laugh and instead got dead silence.
A couple of things trouble me about this. One: many in the church were cheering him on. Two: Obama was elected to the senate & I’m sure this info was available during that election cyce.
He is smooth as silk- very glib. He thinks like a lawyer using words and phrases designed to make the average person believe they’ve just heard what they thought they should hear.
I look forward to his getting caught- his evasive lies are going to finish him.
Apparently the Clintons leaked that photo of Osama looking like a Muslim.
Please add it to your excellent of MuBarack Hussein photos excellency.
Thanks.
The comments have come Freepers and from actual articles.
“Barack Obama either agreed with what was preached from the Trinity pulpit, or he tuned it out and stayed around pretending to for political reasons. To say he stayed for 20 years but doesn't agree with Wright's preaching is incredible denial. It'd be like a man buying White Sox season tickets for 20 years, attending the games, and saying he's not a fan.”
Obama’s supporters want us to ignore this story… just push it under the rug. While they’ll align Republicans with any obscure pastor who does or says something controversial, they’re trying to convince us that Obama’s 20-year long close relationship with Wright, including his effective endorsement of him, his church and rhetoric with a $22,500 donation in 2006 is irrelevant.
“When Obama decided against wearing an American flag pin, we may all have been a bit too quick to accept his rationale, too quick to find that issue unimportant. Now, that American flag pin has gotten a lot bigger for a lot of us, especially in light of what may have been and may still be Obama’s deeper, and, perhaps, secret, less than patriotic beliefs about America.”
“Wright says that blacks can’t be expected to sing God Bless America because of racism. Obama doesn’t salute the flag during the National Anthem. That sure strikes me as an amazing coincidence since Obama swears he never heard Wright say anything against America.”
If hw couldn’t figure that out he isn’t qualified to be dog catcher let alone POTUS.
Wright is such a hate-crazed specimen he couldn’t feign sanity for the few minutes that Hannity was interviewing him last year (replayed last night). The man is an absolute caricature of a whitey-hater.
This is not going away, the days are over when the MSM could bury anything they did not think us peasants needed to know.
I suspect that Obama has lost the left wing Evangelical vote, whatever that number comes to.
rovenstinez, you stated above:
“I can’t believe this kind of stuff goes on in pulpits, and they qualify for a TAX deductions when they so OPENLY endorse their candidate. I’ve known very small churches of WHITE people in New York that lost their case because they paid for an AD in the local newspaper, they lost their tax exempt status”
Amen. That is the question I’ve been asking! I know of a church which hasnt lost its status, but the church leadership has definitely had their freedom of speech cinched down in order to keep their tax exempt status.
“Barack is smart and probably wanted to leave this loony toon “church””
Don’t think so.
You have to look at Obama’s story. He started as a ‘community organizer’ in Chicago working with the poor. Joining Trinity with it’s emphasis on Black Liberation Theology was a perfect. Obama has fully incorporated Black Liberation Theology into his political life. No, he was quite comfortable at Trinity. He is also quite comfortable with the statements of Jerimiah Wright.
The Clintons are paying lots of people to have these
types of vote stoppers going....they just can’t get
him ...Spitseried yet....Bill is giving extra bonus for
the sack pics....JK
“I wasn’t in church during the time that these statement were made.....”
Are you kidding, Hussein?....Because you were not there means you can’t comment on his flamethrower sermons? you’ve never heard them before over 20 years or does he only go medieval on whites when your not there? Do you support the radical black racist minister of your church or not?....Common Hussein! start talking! Your rediculous excuses are an insult to my intelligence! You will never get to the white house with this lame crap!
There were threads on FR about the ‘theology’ of Obama’s church over a year ago when he first announced his candidacy.
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