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Saddam had “no operational ties” to AQ: Pentagon
Hot Air ^ | March 11, 2008 | by Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/11/2008 5:56:52 AM PDT by jdm

A new study commissioned by the Pentagon has reviewed over 600,000 documents captured in the invasion of Iraq, and the analysis shows no evidence of operational ties between Saddam Hussein’s regime and al-Qaeda. It did find operational ties and more between Saddam and other terrorist groups, however, which will likely be lost in an avalanche of I-told-you-sos:

An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein’s regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida terrorist network.

The Pentagon-sponsored study, scheduled for release later this week, did confirm that Saddam’s regime provided some support to other terrorist groups, particularly in the Middle East, U.S. officials told McClatchy Newspapers. However, his security services were directed primarily against Iraqi exiles, Shiite Muslims, Kurds and others he considered enemies of his regime.

The new study of the Iraqi regime’s archives found no documents indicating a “direct operational link” between Hussein’s Iraq and al-Qaida before the invasion, according to a U.S. official familiar with the report.

The study found, though, that Saddam Hussein turned Iraq into a state sponsor of terrorism, including for groups with “global” scope.  Saddam had openly bragged about some of his activities.  He made a great show of paying $25,000 to families of Palestinian suicide bombers, for instance, and at one point held a convention for international terrorists in Baghdad.

McClatchy reporter Warren Strobel also includes a strange passage in this report:

As recently as last July, Bush tried to tie al-Qaida to the ongoing violence in Iraq.

“The same people that attacked us on September the 11th is a crowd that is now bombing people, killing innocent men, women and children, many of whom are Muslims,” the president said.

That has little to do with pre-war intelligence.  Not too many people dispute that AQ has an active presence in Iraq in the post-invasion period, mostly because AQ keeps reminding people of it.  The argument which the Pentagon report addresses is whether AQ existed in Iraq before we invaded, or whether they entered Iraq as a consequence of the invasion.  Clearly, the Pentagon report believes it to be the latter.

As this report makes clear, though, Saddam sponsored terrorist groups outside of Iraq as well as conducted terror inside Iraq with his own security forces.  He made himself into a malevolent force in the region, and he represented a threat to American and Western interests in the region.  Had we let the sanctions regime collapse — which was what was happening when we invaded — Saddam would have restarted his WMD programs and would have continued in his ambitions to make himself the leader of a unified and hostile Arab state.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abledanger; alqaeda; alqaedaandiraq; intel; iraq; pentagon; prewardocs; prewarintelligence; saddam; ties; wmd
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1 posted on 03/11/2008 5:56:53 AM PDT by jdm
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To: jdm
Wait for the anti-USA left to start proclaiming Saddam Hussein to having been the nicest human being on the planet.
2 posted on 03/11/2008 5:59:35 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: jdm

Saddam forgot to write it down I bet.


3 posted on 03/11/2008 6:00:04 AM PDT by listenhillary (You watch, Hillary will challenge McCain for the R nomination)
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To: jdm

Saddam had to be dealt with eventually, I just never believed it was as early as Bush wanted.

It is kind of a shame that the US has to go through this prerequisite of proving a link, proving WMD, when Saddam has demonstrated time and time again that he was a murderous dictator who simply needed to go away.


4 posted on 03/11/2008 6:00:09 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: pnh102

As this report makes clear, though, Saddam sponsored terrorist groups outside of Iraq as well as conducted terror inside Iraq with his own security forces. He made himself into a malevolent force in the region, and he represented a threat to American and Western interests in the region. Had we let the sanctions regime collapse — which was what was happening when we invaded — Saddam would have restarted his WMD programs and would have continued in his ambitions to make himself the leader of a unified and hostile Arab state.

They save the best for last I see!


5 posted on 03/11/2008 6:00:46 AM PDT by angcat (Indian name "She who yells too much")
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To: jdm

This isn’t news. Even when they find the link everybody on the other side of the aisle will say it was forged or phony. Why even spend the time looking? We know they communicate, we just don’t know how operational the communications had been but it is a mute point.


6 posted on 03/11/2008 6:00:53 AM PDT by HD1200
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To: angcat

Everything you said is 100% true... but this matters not. All this does is to provide the anti-USA left more ammo for their inane, but effective, argument that “Bush lied and people died.”


7 posted on 03/11/2008 6:02:59 AM PDT by pnh102
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To: jdm

Interesting. Thanks for posting. More commentary here...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1983672/posts


8 posted on 03/11/2008 6:03:07 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: jdm

Hussein was in blatant violation of several tens of U.N. directives, and should have been taken care of by the U.N.

Seeing that they are a ball-less, spine-less outfit, we did the next best thing.

Iran is also now in direct violation of U.N. sanctions.


9 posted on 03/11/2008 6:03:49 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Islam ... If you can't join them, beat them.)
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To: jdm

Did they get this from the same people who said Iran does not have any type of Nuclear capabilities in preparation and are not a threat?

Give me a BREAK!

Saddam was gutted and he gave money to anyone he thought would attack the U.S. or anyone connected with the U.S.

Judas A. Priest the Media is our ENEMY WITHIN.


10 posted on 03/11/2008 6:04:11 AM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things." President Ronald Reagan)
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"The argument which the Pentagon report addresses is whether AQ existed in Iraq before we invaded, or whether they entered Iraq as a consequence of the invasion."

After Afghanistan fell to the coalition al-Zarqawi and other members of al-Qaeda fled to Iraq. From Iraq they planned the assassination of U.S. Diplomat Foley in Jordan. They carried out the assassination and fled back to Iraq. This was October of 2002 -- pre Iraq War.

Al-Qaeda was definitely set up in Iraq prior to the war. What that report tries to confuse the reader with is al-Qaeda operating with Saddam vs. just being in Iraq pre-war.

11 posted on 03/11/2008 6:04:15 AM PDT by avacado
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To: HD1200

Maybe we have reduced the threat to the oil supply by half. At least now we have lots of eyes in the area.

It sucks that oil is such high priority national security item, but it is.


12 posted on 03/11/2008 6:04:47 AM PDT by listenhillary (You watch, Hillary will challenge McCain for the R nomination)
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To: pnh102

It’s effective only to morons.


13 posted on 03/11/2008 6:10:05 AM PDT by angcat (Indian name "She who yells too much")
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To: jdm
As recently as last July, Bush tried to tie al-Qaida to the ongoing violence in Iraq.

“The same people that attacked us on September the 11th is a crowd that is now bombing people, killing innocent men, women and children, many of whom are Muslims,” the president said.

Bush lied and lots of folks died.

Not too many people dispute that AQ has an active presence in Iraq in the post-invasion period...

The only reason AQ still has any presence in a few provinces is that they are attracted by American soldiers. Most of the remaining population is willing to tolerat AQ's killing of occupation forces. After our troops leave, Sunnis, Shiites, and Kurds will find the AQ presence unacceptable and soon thereafter AQ will be expelled from Iraq.

14 posted on 03/11/2008 6:11:04 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: pnh102

What difference does it make? The intelligence people could have found hundreds of documents showing direct links between Saddam and AQ and the leftists would still believe that the US was not justified in invading Iraq. Nothing, no counter evidence, would get them to change their minds about President Bush. The only good thing is that President Bush didn’t pay any attention to what the leftists said or did, he just went ahead and did what he thought was best for the US. And regardless of what the anti-war left says, the world is still better off without Saddam in power.


15 posted on 03/11/2008 6:13:44 AM PDT by ops33
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To: Slapshot68

“Saddam had to be dealt with eventually, I just never believed it was as early as Bush wanted.”

I’m not an expert on this but from what I recall France, Russia, China, and others were working feverishly to get the sanctions lifted. At that point Saddam was ready to start his WMD program. I think the timing was necessary. I think we should have just told the truth. “France and China want to help Saddam get WMD so we better take him out before they get the chance.”


16 posted on 03/11/2008 6:15:44 AM PDT by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: MurryMom
"Bush lied and lots of folks died."

Huh? Lied about what?

After Afghanistan fell to the coalition al-Zarqawi and other members of al-Qaeda fled to Iraq. From Iraq they planned the assassination of U.S. Diplomat Foley in Jordan. They carried out the assassination and fled back to Iraq. This was October of 2002 -- pre Iraq War.

Al-Qaeda was definitely set up in Iraq prior to the war. What that report tries to confuse the reader with is al-Qaeda operating with Saddam vs. just being in Iraq pre-war.

17 posted on 03/11/2008 6:16:39 AM PDT by avacado
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To: MurryMom

Quotes and Facts on Iraq (Statements they try to forget, but won’t be forgotten)

“Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price.”

Senator Hillary Clinton (Democrat, New York)
September 13, 2001

http://www.wavsource.com/news/20010911a.htm

“It is the duty of any president, in the final analysis, to defend this nation and dispel the security threat. Saddam Hussein has brought military action upon himself by refusing for 12 years to comply with the mandates of the United Nations. The brave and capable men and women of our armed forces and those who are with us will quickly, I know, remove him once and for all as a threat to his neighbors, to the world, and to his own people, and I support their doing so.”

Senator John Kerry (Democrat, Massachusetts)
Statement on eve of military strikes against Iraq

March 17, 2003
http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030331&s=lizza033103

Senator John Edwards, when asked about “Axis of Evil” countries Iran, Iraq, and North Korea:

“I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States — they’re dictatorships, they’re involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction — you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries. I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country.”

Senator John Edwards (Democrat, North Carolina)
During an interview on CNN’s “Late Edition”
February 24, 2002
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0202/24/le.00.html

more at link. But, you will not read them.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1698670/posts


18 posted on 03/11/2008 6:16:47 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: MurryMom
Bush lied and lots of folks died.

I think you forgot to include a sarcasm tag in your whole post...
19 posted on 03/11/2008 6:16:55 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: pnh102

......All this does is to provide the anti-USA left more ammo for their inane, but effective, argument that “Bush lied and people died.”........

Yeah, when I first saw this I was like, “how many times am I going to see that headline? How many times have I seen it the last 5 years?” It gets recycled just to make Bush look stupid.


20 posted on 03/11/2008 6:17:37 AM PDT by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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