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California Home-Schooling Ruling Called 'Assault on Family'
CNSNews.com ^ | March 10, 2008 | Randy Hall

Posted on 03/10/2008 4:22:15 AM PDT by Man50D

A ruling by a California appeals court that parents "do not have a constitutional right to home-school their children" drew harsh criticism from religious conservatives on Friday, one of whom said the decision makes tens of thousands of parents into criminals - "the equivalent to drug dealers or pick-pockets."

"The court is guilty of an imperious assault on the rights of parents," James Dobson, chairman of Focus on the Family, said in a press release responding to a three-judge panel from the 2nd District Court of Appeals, which ruled on Feb. 28 that parents without teaching credentials cannot home-school their children.

"How dare these judges have the audacity to label tens of thousands of parents as criminals - the equivalent to drug dealers or pick-pockets - because they want to raise and educate their children according to their deeply held values?" Dobson asked.

At the center of the case is a Southern California couple, Phillip and Mary Long of Lynwood, who home-schooled their children through a program at the Sunland Christian School in Sylmar. The family came to the attention of Los Angeles County social workers when one of the children claimed the father was physically abusive.

The workers then learned that all eight children in the family were home-schooled, and an attorney representing the two youngest children asked the Juvenile Dependency Court to order that they be enrolled in public or private school to protect their well-being.

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1 posted on 03/10/2008 4:22:15 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D; metmom

Get them into “real schools” where they can be “socialized,” not educated, and bullied into being “tolerant” of anything that opposes traditional Judeo-Christian values.

Oh, and while they’re there, make sure they take the “legal” drugs that will curb their anti-social little impulses to think for themselves.


2 posted on 03/10/2008 4:40:50 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Man50D
Let them go to Government Schools where they will be brain washed with anti-American crap or is it Span-ish.
3 posted on 03/10/2008 4:48:02 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: Man50D

The marxists won this one. You can be sure Massachusetts and New Jersey will be next.


4 posted on 03/10/2008 5:07:44 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Man50D

Home school kids score higher on ACT and SAT than public school kids and they win the national spelling bee, too.


5 posted on 03/10/2008 5:19:57 AM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull warming - Climate Change - the biggest hoax/fraud/deception of the 21st century.)
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To: Man50D

Wow, the 2nd circuit judges need too be ousted by WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY! Maybe Bill O’Riley will stir up some public outrage and humiliate these communist brainless wonders, like he does with judges that go easy on child molesters. I wonder if those A$$bags could provide proof that PUBLIC SCHOOLS are not only constitutional but mandatory.


6 posted on 03/10/2008 5:22:02 AM PDT by Boiling point (If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.)
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To: buffyt

I’ve seen that claim before - do you have a link that shows that?


7 posted on 03/10/2008 5:22:20 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Man50D
"The family came to the attention of Los Angeles County social workers when one of the children claimed the father was physically abusive. "

Before we go off in the direction of defending these parents, shouldn't we first find out in some detail how it happened that this family came to the attention of LA County social workers in the first place?

I am all for a parents right to choose but I would like to know the truth.

8 posted on 03/10/2008 5:22:45 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: wmileo
Before we go off in the direction of defending these parents

But the case before the judges "involved one couple - the ruling should have been confined to that one couple, not used to punish an entire class of people...

9 posted on 03/10/2008 5:27:44 AM PDT by mcar
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To: Man50D

From the Ace of Spade Blog:

The outrage over this case is based on a completely manufactured premise. Parents without teaching credentials can still educate their children at home under the various exemptions to mandatory public school enrollment provided in § 48220 et seq. of the Cal. Ed. Code. The parents in this case lost because they claimed that the students were enrolled in a charter school and that with minimal supervision from the school, the children were free to skip classes so the mother could teach them at home. There is no basis in law for that argument. If only the parents had attempted to homeschool their kids in one of the statutorily prescribed methods, they would have prevailed.


10 posted on 03/10/2008 5:28:44 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: wmileo

The parents in the case can and should be punished for whatever abuse they committed, however, the judge’s ruling, which I have read, finds that there is no right to homeschool in California and will be a dangerous precedent.


11 posted on 03/10/2008 5:29:47 AM PDT by JenB
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To: NC28203

Several people who actually homeschool in California have stated on previous threads that this ruling WILL affect them or others they know. Many homeschoolers in CA have used an “umbrella school” structure for years just like this family did. The judge just ruled that inadmissable and his ruling could be used as precedent to further erode homeschoolers’ rights.

The HSLDA is concerned about this ruling, so I am too.


12 posted on 03/10/2008 5:31:47 AM PDT by JenB
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To: wmileo
Before we go off in the direction of defending these parents, shouldn't we first find out in some detail how it happened that this family came to the attention of LA County social workers in the first place?

This issue actually has nothing to do with homeschooling by itself. There is a much larger issue. This is one among many methods socialists are using to replace our democratic republic with socialism. The family is the foundation of any society. Attack the family by making it dysfunctional and you destroy that foundation and society making people more dependent on the select few who run the government. Making people more dependent centralizes power to a relatively small group of people. That is the core principle behind socialism.
13 posted on 03/10/2008 5:33:14 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D; mcar; JenB
I am not defending Socialists, and any California Supreme Court. I live in New Jersey which will undoubtedly be next on this road to ruin.

I just want to make sure that we have all of the facts in order to defend these parents(and the right to home schooling for everyone who wants to take on this responsibility) when this terrible decision is challenged. Every FRer should know by now that the standards for us are much higher than for the radical left.

I would like someone like Bill O’Reilly to carry the water on this one since he has a larger audience than FR. This is also a case which should go to the U.S. Supreme Court before Hillary or Obama get their hands on it.

14 posted on 03/10/2008 6:08:33 AM PDT by wmileo (I miss Ronald Wilson Reagan. POTUS #40)
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To: wintertime

ping


15 posted on 03/10/2008 6:55:47 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Man50D
Parents may not have a Constitutional right to homeschool. However, the Constitution does not lay out permissible rights for individuals--it lays out limitations for the government.

If the gov't does not have an explicit right to force children into its schools (which it does not), then California does not have the Constitutional right to make this ruling.

This ruling is a loser from both directions.

16 posted on 03/10/2008 6:59:03 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: NC28203
The parents in this case lost because they claimed that the students were enrolled in a charter school and that with minimal supervision from the school, the children were free to skip classes so the mother could teach them at home. There is no basis in law for that argument. If only the parents had attempted to homeschool their kids in one of the statutorily prescribed methods, they would have prevailed.^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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I agree with you,,BUT,,,This judge did NOT confine his remarks ONLY to this family!

Did you read his report. I did. He comments are globally directed at **every** homeschooler in the state!

17 posted on 03/10/2008 6:59:58 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: buffyt
Home school kids score higher on ACT and SAT than public school kids and they win the national spelling bee, too.

It doesn't matter what the academic credentials are for homeschooling. That's merely a red herring. If the authorities really cared about achievement, don't you think they would actually be improving the public schools?

They're not doing that, so that means they don't really care. What they *do* care about is indoctrination and getting your children away from the family so they can teach them what they want, and avoid the inconvenience of an educated populace.

18 posted on 03/10/2008 7:02:04 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: buffyt

That doesn’t matter - they aren’t being indoctrinated into communism and the gay agenda.

“Assault on Family” - that’s the whole freekin’ point of the leftist agenda! I’m surprised anyone is surprised by this.

And, to me, overturning this decision doesn’t make it go away,

as it is expository of the leftist agenda as a whole.


19 posted on 03/10/2008 7:05:56 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: mcar

This judge saw this one couple as an opening to punish a whole class of people that are circumventing the leftist agenda.


20 posted on 03/10/2008 7:06:52 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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