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Democrats fear brokered convention
The Denver Post ^ | 03/09/2008 | Chuck Plunkett

Posted on 03/09/2008 11:11:38 AM PDT by kingattax

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To: KarlInOhio
How about starting a frequent flyer miles donation program so that well-intentioned members from Code Pink and the Rainbow Coalition can travel to Denver and be a part of the process? < /sarc>

-PJ

21 posted on 03/09/2008 12:00:10 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: political1

I thought the superdelegates were not required to announce their personal choice until the actual vote at the convention. For instance, our own (D) congressman here in WV says he will not endorse either of the 2 in advance (although the senators and other congressmen have). Wouldn’t that give remaining uncommitted SuperDe’s even more clout?


22 posted on 03/09/2008 12:02:31 PM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: kingattax
My solution is to just seat the Michigan and Florida delegates as super-delegates, not pledged delegates. This saves the states the cost of an election, and forces the candidates to fight over the delegates from now until the convention.

The question then is, would the DNC allow a few hundred "average joes" into their elite super-delegate club? The concern about the super-delegates today is that they are mostly elected party officials of some sort, and could be influenced by what their constituents do. Not so the newly appointed super-delegates. Perhaps.

Are the states delegates already named? If the DNC decides to seat them as super-delegates to be won at the convention, would the states then have a new round of selecting super-delegates?

-PJ

23 posted on 03/09/2008 12:05:35 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: relictele
"mild compared to what the Republicans are going to do."

What a joke. Yeah, the Republicans might tell the truth.

Gawd, im lovin wathin the clintons squirm in their slow, agonizing, political death.

24 posted on 03/09/2008 12:05:41 PM PDT by nuf said (I am, therefore I think.)
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To: kingattax

Let’s hope it’s a repeat of the 1968 dem convention.


25 posted on 03/09/2008 12:06:34 PM PDT by UScbass
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To: FormerACLUmember
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26 posted on 03/09/2008 12:08:35 PM PDT by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: kingattax

News that brings a big smile to may face.


27 posted on 03/09/2008 12:11:04 PM PDT by rod1 (uestion)
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There’s been little to none mention of the fact that Bill Clinton is one of those super delegates.


28 posted on 03/09/2008 12:19:26 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: kingattax
Top Democrats are beginning to resign themselves to the chance the party won't know who will win the presidential nomination until after delegates take the floor of the Pepsi Center in August.

Might need more Coke served then Pepsi if you get my sniff drift.

29 posted on 03/09/2008 12:19:34 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: kingattax

FR bookmark , ..


30 posted on 03/09/2008 12:27:19 PM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: political1

Actually, the superdelegate decision can be made prior to the convention. They coulc have a “pre-convention” in May, and pledge support to Obama, and the race will be effectively over. That way they could prevent a floor fight.


31 posted on 03/09/2008 12:28:30 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: kingattax
The Empire strikes back...


32 posted on 03/09/2008 12:32:32 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Vaclav Klaus on global warming skeptics: "a whip of political correctness strangles their voice")
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To: KarlInOhio

Recreate 68, google it and they are up and running already. You know the libs, always looking for a good protest lol.


33 posted on 03/09/2008 12:34:50 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: FormerACLUmember

I think Limbaugh was a little late, actually. The black racists are going to take over the Democratic Party if not the country.


34 posted on 03/09/2008 12:51:32 PM PDT by NoSocialEngineering
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
the 2025 number needed is pledged delegates. The problem with the DNC rules are that the superdelegates can go against what the pledged delegates vote for, thus swinging the popular vote one way or the other. This is nullified by having a pledged delegate lead which is larger then the amount of superdelegates. Which is not going to happen.
35 posted on 03/09/2008 12:51:55 PM PDT by political1
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To: relictele
We have already seen strong hints of what Hillary may be going to do.

The Florida Democratic party has surmised that if the Florida delegates to the convention are not seated, then the state party would not support the Democratic nominee. Look for Michigan to do the same.

Both Florida and Michigan knew that the DNC would ban their delegations if they held the early primaries. They held the early primaries anyway. I think both states are sure that their delegates to the Democratic convention will be seated. It is the convention delegates who will decide if the Florida and Michigan delegates get seated. The DNC does not have the power to keep them from being seated. It appears that Obama sided with the DNC and Hillary sort of sided with the States.

Dean was elected to head the DNC because he promised to split the DNC money equally among the states rather than spend it the way the DNC wanted. He did so. But he is trying to tell the states what to do or else, and the state party leaders do not like that one bit. Those party leaders make up most of the super delegates.

The Convention Delegates will decide if Florida and Michigan are to be seated or not. That will be a clue as to how the super Delegates are going to vote on the nomination. If the delegates overrule Dean and the DNC, it will be a while before the next DNC head tries to tell states when and if they can hold a primary. I look for a majority of delegate to vote to seat Michigan and Florida.

Obama at this point is not going to go for new primaries in Florida and Michigan. Why? He knows Hillary would whip his rump in both states. But if he doesn't, then the current delegates from those two states will likely be seated at the convention.

Notice that about 3 weeks ago Hillary referred to John McCain as her good friend. Then last week Hillary said that only She and her friend John McCain were qualified to be president of the USA.

If only Hillary and McCain are qualified then how could Bill and Hillary support Obama if he gets the nomination. That looks for all the world like a direct threat to the Democratic party. Look for Hillary and Bill to support McCain if the Democrats nominate Obama. That would absolutely insure that Obama would go down at least 65 to 35 and Republicans would win the house and maybe even the senate. Is giving a black man the nomination worth the cost.. that is the question.

Hillary is in effect saying, Obama may be able to cost Democrats the support of black voters... but Bill and I can cause a huge number of registered Democrats to vote for a John McCain.

Bill and Hillary in effect have an AK-47 pointed at the Democratic parties head, and if they don't get the nomination they will pull the trigger.

As this goes on, it looks to me like McCain is a sure thing and Republicans just might take the house and even have a chance at the senate.

No matter who wins the Democratic primary, the Democratic party loses.

36 posted on 03/09/2008 1:04:56 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: kingattax
The Republicans witnessed the danger of a contested convention in 1976, when then-President Gerald Ford battled Ronald Reagan. The brutal race weakened the party, and Ford lost to Democrat Jimmy Carter.

Seems to me that the writer's analysis misses a few of the fine points involved in that election.
37 posted on 03/09/2008 1:17:29 PM PDT by Mariebl
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To: FormerACLUmember
Boo hoo. The Evil Ones are fighting among themselves.

Yeah, Limbaugh Effect!

If all of this comes to past--and only time will tell--I hope all here who derided, chastised, impugned, denigrated, and basically challenged everything including our sanity for voting to Her Thigness--never mind the sh*t El Rushbo took for suggesting same, I can only hope these political experts extraordinaire, and sufferers from extreme Hillary Derangement Syndrome will have the good grace to fess up the error of their ways.

Me, I'm stocking up on popcorn, Heineken and good cigars, cuz it looks like its going to a fun time in the old town this summer.

38 posted on 03/09/2008 1:23:59 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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To: kingattax

Rush, you magnificent bastard!!


39 posted on 03/09/2008 1:36:38 PM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Me, I'm stocking up on popcorn, Heineken and good cigars, cuz it looks like its going to a fun time in the old town this summer.

Bon Appetit! I love the smell of corrupt democrat burning in the AM.

40 posted on 03/09/2008 1:44:24 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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