Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools..
Romans 1:22-23 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Occasional occurrences of small amounts of order might show up at random. The vast amounts of order, complexity, and information that have existed for so long, that some people believe could have just happened is way beyond anything that is believable by chance.
Math is, as it turns out, a creation of the mind.
(Matthew 7:13) Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
(Matthew 7:14) But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
They are moving in the right direction even if they don't know it. Once the big bang theory was accepted as the most likely explanation for the creation of the universe a recognition of God as the designer is inevitable.
It has long been known that mathematics has nothing to do with the natural world. It is something, but descriptive it is not. Evolution is a descriptive science, which is to say it is not a science of laws like physics. There are different things going on here and they should not be lumped together.
BTTT
Explaining a complex yet knowable system (the universe) with a more complex system that is off-limits for scientific study (God, or whoever) is not science. You can speculate about it all you want - and that is not bad - but until there is a way to test it, it is just an idea, not even close to a hypothesis.
What he forgets is that science postulates singularity with no explanation of how IT arose.
Pascal's Wager
1...You live as though God exists.
If God exists, you go to heaven: your gain is infinite.
If God does not exist, you gain nothing and lose nothing.
2...You live as though God does not exist.
If God exists, the text is unspecified, but it could be implied that you go to limbo, purgatory, or hell: your loss is either null or infinite.
If God does not exist, you gain nothing and lose nothing
Put that in you thinking pipe and smoke it bud!
I’m by no means a mathematician and the light bulb experiment as explained is not really clear but it seems to me that the author is suggesting that order can come from randomness? However in his light bulb experiment, he begins with a clock that ticks off very ordered one-second increments.
bttt
It’s one thing that a mathemetician would focus on issues of order in the universe. But his science can’t even replicate disorder— there is no such thing as a truly random number generator that doesn’t take as input some naturally random quantity. Until science can explain randomness, what hope is there that it can explain order?
Yawn
It is not clear to me that Dr. Paulos fully understands the problem. For example:
> Let me begin by noting that even about the seemingly completely disordered, we can always say something. No universe could be completely random at all levels of analysis.
The issue is not some random pattern, such as predominance of color magenta or funky fractals. The issue is a very particular complexity that allows human life forms to develop.
> Kauffman asks us to consider a large collection of 10,000 light bulbs, each bulb having inputs from two other bulbs in the collection.
Who arranged the light bulbs?
Ok, let’s try this again without the sarcasm. Genes do not turn themselves on and off. That is done by other cellular molecules (proteins and non-coding RNA) which are precisely controlled by other molecules and chemical conditions. These molecules are expressed (generated) from DNA (genes). To generate these molecules both the DNA and the molecules must be present and the molecular and chemical conditions have to be exactly right. Otherwise it just does not happen. Evolutionists do attempt to explain this chicken-and-egg problem by proposing an existence of “RNA World” where all molecular players were RNA. Since RNA degrades if you look at it cross-eye, no actual evidence of this “RNA World” will ever be found. This makes for a rather convenient hypothesis.
It seems that evolutionists are able to make arguments only by ignoring the real life complexity of the Universe and Biology or by proposing un-testable hypothesis.
I've wondered this myself.
If all the evidence we can evaluate indicates that the universe is no older than about 13.5 billion years, what was He doing before then, or how did He become God at that time?
The only answer to that I've ever heard is that science is wrong and the universe has always existed. There's zero evidence of that, and 100% of the evidence to the contrary.
Plus I hear that the world is only 6,000 years old.
It is bit contradictory.
'Creation Science' and Intelligent Design are NOT the same thing, no matter how much folks who want to villify ID try to lump them together.
Mathematician Ping!
“Listen to ‘If you can read this, I can prove God exists’ by Perry Marshall”
http://www.cosmicfingerprints.com/ifyoucanreadthis.htm
Perry Marshall points out the difference between pattern and design, discussing the concept of intent and directionality of information flow.
Atheists hoping to refute Marshall’s argument don’t have a prayer.