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Men Have A Harder Time Forgiving Than Women Do
Science Daily ^ | 3-3-2008 | Case Western Reserve University

Posted on 03/03/2008 6:11:06 PM PST by blam

Men Have A Harder Time Forgiving Than Women Do

ScienceDaily (Mar. 3, 2008) — Forgiveness can be a powerful means to healing, but it does not come naturally for both sexes. Men have a harder time forgiving than women do, according to Case Western Reserve University psychologist Julie Juola Exline. But that can change if men develop empathy toward an offender by seeing they may also be capable of similar actions. Then the gender gap closes, and men become less vengeful.

In seven forgiveness-related studies Exline conducted between 1998 through 2005 with more than 1,400 college students, gender differences between men and women consistently emerged. When asked to recall offenses they had committed personally, men became less vengeful toward people who had offended them. Women reflecting on personal offenses, and beginning at a lower baseline for vengeance, exhibited no differences in levels of unforgiving. When women had to recall a similar offense in relation to the other's offense, women felt guilty and tended to magnify the other's offense.

"The gender difference is not anything that we predicted. We actually got aggravated, because we kept getting it over and over again in our studies," said Exline. "We kept trying to explain it away, but it kept repeating in the experiments."

The John Templeton Foundation-supported studies used hypothetical situations, actual recalled offenses, individual and group situations and surveys to study the ability to forgive.

Exline said prior studies have shown that at baseline (without any interventions), men tend to be more vengeful than women, who have been taught from childhood to put themselves "in the shoes of others" and empathize with them.

In Exline's study, women who recalled similar offenses of their own did not show much difference in their levels of vengeance, in contrast to men. Women, having been taught from an early age to be more empathetic, lean toward relationship building and do not emphasize the vengeful side of justice to the degree that men do.

The researchers found that people of both genders are more forgiving when they see themselves as capable of committing a similar action to the offender's; it tends to make the offense seem smaller. Seeing capability also increases empathic understanding of the offense and causes people to feel more similar to the offenders. Each of these factors, in turn, predicts more forgiving attitudes.

"Offenses are easier to forgive to the extent that they seem small and understandable and when we see ourselves as similar or close to the offender," she said.

Exline found this ability to identify with the offender and forgive also happens in intergroup conflicts in a study that she related to forgiveness of the 9/11 terrorists.

"When people could envision their own government committing acts similar to those of the terrorists, they were less vengeful," she stressed. "For example, they were less likely to believe that perpetrators should be killed on the spot or given the death penalty, and they were more supportive of negotiations and economic aid."

Exline is the lead author on the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology's article, "Not so Innocent: Does Seeing One's Own Capability for Wrongdoing Predict Forgiveness?" She collaborated with researchers Roy Baumeister and Anne Zell from Florida State University; Amy Kraft from Arizona State; and Charlotte Witvliet from Hope College.

Adapted from materials provided by Case Western Reserve University, via EurekAlert!, a service of AAAS.


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KEYWORDS: bs; forgiveness; forgiving; lorenabobbit; men; originalsin; psychology; women
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To: blam

Love these humor posts.


41 posted on 03/03/2008 6:49:35 PM PST by LiberConservative
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To: cripplecreek

I have!

They thanked me for helping them forget your short comings!


42 posted on 03/03/2008 6:51:42 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Arrogance IS my virtue!)
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To: ShadowDancer

Hmmm...you may be overanalyzing this, you should really try to forgive them, should come naturally.


43 posted on 03/03/2008 6:56:00 PM PST by Baladas
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To: blam

BUNK!


44 posted on 03/03/2008 7:00:00 PM PST by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: blam

ell that to my x-wife


45 posted on 03/03/2008 7:05:05 PM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: The_Republican

“I have trouble believing this research......”

Me, too. This has not been my experience or observation at all.


46 posted on 03/03/2008 7:05:20 PM PST by RatRipper
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To: blam
Men Have A Harder Time Forgiving Than Women Do

It may be true or not, but, I do know that my wife has the second best developed long term memory of any sentient being I have ever encountered...second, of course to her mother.
47 posted on 03/03/2008 7:07:01 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Can’t be. . . my ex hasn’t remarried anyone. I thought she was the only one to remember things that didn’t happen.


48 posted on 03/03/2008 7:07:36 PM PST by RatRipper
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To: RatRipper

I wish mine would get re-married. A new victim would take my place. But she can’t even keep a boyfriend long enough to get me any real break. Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM (or at least WAS) a dumbass.


49 posted on 03/03/2008 7:11:56 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: blam

I’m a woman and I forgive readily, but in my experience it’s men who forgive more easily, by far. Women tend to hold grudges. Often you don’t even know you’ve offended, for a good long time! Men let you know, they deal with offense and get past it.


50 posted on 03/03/2008 7:12:43 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Baladas

Nothing to forgive, I’m not at the receiving end of the real life whining.


51 posted on 03/03/2008 7:14:41 PM PST by ShadowDancer ( Losers always look for excuses. Winners never quit.)
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To: blam
Do you think the outcome of this study could have been impacted by this...
Report: Women Are World-Class Fibbers 8^)

I think the article is really saying that women are more passive then men when it comes to events like 911 where men don't 'let it go' but want justice.

52 posted on 03/03/2008 7:19:05 PM PST by disclaimer
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To: blam
Betrayal is unforgiveable.

Yup.

53 posted on 03/03/2008 7:23:42 PM PST by JennysCool (They all say they want change, but they’re really after folding money.)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Guess I am lucky that neither of us has been petty, we don’t fight, and actually do favors for each other occasionally. Yes I have forgiven, played the guitar for her to sing at a couple of funerals, but I have not forgotten. She precipitated the divorce and based her myopic view of things that were not true, twisted versions of what she thought I said or did, upon which she simmered and grew bitter for years.

Forgiven? Yes. But it is still is a little tough to accept (after 7 years) that your life is wrecked by bitterness over BS lies, distortions and misunderstandings. Nineteen years thrown away.


54 posted on 03/03/2008 7:23:52 PM PST by RatRipper
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To: blam

Brbra Streisand! A chick told me recently that she can forget, but she cannot forgive! (?) And, get this, there was nothing I had done to forgive me for, it was I who had a lot to forgive her.


55 posted on 03/03/2008 7:25:32 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: ShadowDancer
Women, having been taught from an early age to be more empathetic, lean toward relationship building and do not emphasize the vengeful side of justice to the degree that men do.

My favorite quote is above. Have the researchers lived on the same planet as I have? The story doesn't say how the question was actually tested. Maybe women forgive men more easily than men forgive women—I don't know.

But how about women forgiving each other? I'm not sure I've ever seen it. The grudges, the vengeance, sometimes on a petty level, sometimes on a big scale, can be unbelievable, especially when there's a struggle over a male. Personally, I've never seen men go to the lengths some women do to get even.

women, who have been taught from childhood to put themselves "in the shoes of others" and empathize with them.

That quote seems especially hallucinatory. Note that this study did not actually test whether women are "taught from childhood to put themselves in the shoes of others," or are just born that way—it would have been quite involved. The bias toward "nurture" rather than "nature" explanations is just part of the dogma of social psychology. I expected something more interesting from a researcher like Roy Baumeister, who usually has more sensible things to say. And I expected better from Templeton's outfit.

The main problem is that it doesn't mean much to say one sex is more "vengeful" than the other. Vengeful about what? Expressed how? It's a complex question that goes directly to the heart of what matters most to each sex—and if you listen to the evidence of your senses, you know that different things matter to each.

"When people could envision their own government committing acts similar to those of the terrorists, they were less vengeful," she stressed. "For example, they were less likely to believe that perpetrators should be killed on the spot or given the death penalty, and they were more supportive of negotiations and economic aid."

And yes, in case we were in doubt, the real point of this pseudo-scientific eyewash, other than to get a grant, is to make liberals feel more comfortable with their cowardice.

56 posted on 03/03/2008 7:26:52 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: blam

I would like to hear Bill Clintons take on this article:)


57 posted on 03/03/2008 7:26:55 PM PST by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: disclaimer

Bullshit, men do too let it go. Do you really think women make up most of the electorate? You can try to blame who’s holding office on women all you’d like but men are not disenfranchised. If you don’t like the result they are either voting liberal or not voting. Women, while morons in droves, do not take the cake in idiocy.


58 posted on 03/03/2008 7:27:57 PM PST by ShadowDancer ( Losers always look for excuses. Winners never quit.)
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To: blam

Not my husband.........the minute I say I’m sorry, he forgives and he NEVER holds a grudge. It’s one of the many things I admire so much about him.


59 posted on 03/03/2008 7:32:12 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: blam
Men Have A Harder Time Forgiving Than Women Do

Well duh!

On average, men believe in justice. Or at least in putting the
scales of justice level again.

On average, too many women believe in hugs for murderers,
rapists and the like.
Until someone they care about gets tortured,
raped/sodomized/impregnated
by animals that just happen to walk upright and look like human beings.

Then they wise up real fast. Unless they are in Hollywood,
one of the Democratic Machine urban centers or liberal Northern Europe.

That's just the opinion of another male chauvanist pig.
(c'est moi!)
60 posted on 03/03/2008 7:33:12 PM PST by VOA
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