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Despite fences, immigrants still broach U.S. border
Reuters ^ | 03 Mar 2008 | Tim Gaynor

Posted on 03/03/2008 9:06:34 AM PST by BGHater

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'Local rancher John Ladd said some 300 to 400 illegal immigrants continue to clamber over the new steel barrier flanking the southern reach of his farm for some 10 miles (16 km) each day, as an effective combination of technologies and manpower remains elusive.'

At 300 a day, that would be around 110K crossing over near his farm in a year. Wow. Thats just at that spot. Wow.

1 posted on 03/03/2008 9:06:35 AM PST by BGHater
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He needs to invest in some Mexican fighting bulls or African cape buffaloes and pasture them along the fence area.


2 posted on 03/03/2008 9:08:54 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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This “fences don’t work” stuff is pure BS.

The Berlin Wall all but stopped border crossing for decades.

We don;t need to give up on fences, we just need to built bigger fences — as I recall the Hunter fence was about right.


3 posted on 03/03/2008 9:09:48 AM PST by wilco200
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They need some nasty non-lethal technologies to dissuade them.


4 posted on 03/03/2008 9:10:12 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: wilco200

No argument there. I would suggest dropping the fence idea and try walls.

At some point we are gonna take this serious and treat it like a actual international border and a national security problem.


5 posted on 03/03/2008 9:11:52 AM PST by BGHater ($2300 is the limit of your Free Speech.)
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...some 300 to 400 illegal immigrants continue to clamber over the new steel barrier...

Hook up a few thousand volts to the steel.

6 posted on 03/03/2008 9:12:42 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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getusedtoit

Thanks Jorge. This will be YOUR legacy.

7 posted on 03/03/2008 9:13:07 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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“Despite fences, immigrants still broach U.S. border”

“Immigrants” don’t broach a nation’s borders. They follow a previously established legal process toward citizenship. These people are criminals.

Maybe if I removed generous chunks of my frontal lobe with an ice cream scooper, I’d be stupid enough to be a journalist for Reuters.


8 posted on 03/03/2008 9:15:15 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: JimRed

We got that new “heat ray” gun. Just use those.


9 posted on 03/03/2008 9:15:39 AM PST by MarkeyD (Just another country bumpkin looking forward to Fred!)
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Heavy fines for EVERY illegal that is employed.

Heavy fines for every landlord that rents to them.

Absolutely no HUD, Food Stamps or Health care.

Any child born in the US of illegal parents is also illegal.

If these rules are followed they will go back to where they belong and stop coming in illegally.

10 posted on 03/03/2008 9:17:35 AM PST by Dustbunny ((Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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"This used to be a huge trouble area, now we are almost down to zero."

In lieberal newspeak almost down to zero = not 100% perfect and secure. Therefore, it is a failure and we must abandon it. Yesterday.

On the other hand, abject failures of lieberal solutions such as the war on poverty only mean we are not throwing enough money at it. Therefore, we need to increase funding.

11 posted on 03/03/2008 9:18:00 AM PST by Vigilanteman
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Maybe if I removed generous chunks of my frontal lobe with an ice cream scooper, I’d be stupid enough to be a journalist for Reuters.

Do they make ice cream scoopers that big?

12 posted on 03/03/2008 9:19:39 AM PST by Vigilanteman
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110K crossing over near his farm in a year.

I'd love to have the beer concession there.

13 posted on 03/03/2008 9:20:48 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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And a fence in Israel stopped suicide bombers.


14 posted on 03/03/2008 9:24:17 AM PST by Exton1
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Yes, but you omit the portions of the Berlin Wall that our fence doesn’t have:

1. Border Guards preauthorized and able to use deadly force 24/7,

2. Attack dogs between the fences,

3. Electrified fences (in selected places), and last but not least,

4. Land mines.

It is really just a matter of attitude toward the illegal crossers. Compared to the East Germans, we are just a bunch of softies. We prefer they escape as opposed to being seriously injured in the attempt. The East Germans preferred the illegal crossers dead as opposed to successfully escaping.


15 posted on 03/03/2008 9:24:53 AM PST by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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Anti-Fence, Pro-Illegal propaganda.

If fences didn’t work they wouldn’t have them around nuclear facilities, the White House and compounds of the Hollywood elite.

No, they are not 100% effective on the border, especially as stand alone structures without active Border Patrol backup, but they will be 99.99% effective as part of an integrated security system.

And that is precisely why democrat and republican hacks like Kennedy, McCain, Bush, Pelosi and Joe Baca are opposed to a real fence.

A real fence of steel, concrete, and wire costs a few percent of a “virtual fence” equipped with high tech gadgets and gee-gaws and is infinitely more effective.

A 15’ chain link fence isn’t even adequate for a schoolyard let alone a border under siege by millions of rabid illegals, drug dealers and evil-doers.

16 posted on 03/03/2008 9:28:10 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

“Thanks Jorge. This will be YOUR legacy.....”

Bush will go down as the president who did it his way....All wrong!


17 posted on 03/03/2008 9:28:35 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: EyeGuy

Nah, you don’t need to do that, just stick an icepick up off in the corner and stir around.


18 posted on 03/03/2008 9:30:43 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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Must be that fancy new virtual fence they were talking about, you know the one like the Kings Clothes. Unfortunately it only keeps virtual immigrants out.


19 posted on 03/03/2008 9:33:24 AM PST by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: Captain Rhino

Are you suggesting that we should act as the East Germans did, or are you simply pointing out that we are not controlling the border as the East Germans did?


20 posted on 03/03/2008 9:38:28 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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