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Despite fences, immigrants still broach U.S. border
Reuters ^ | 03 Mar 2008 | Tim Gaynor

Posted on 03/03/2008 9:06:34 AM PST by BGHater

Daily, U.S. Border Patrol agents in this Arizona town faced groups of up to 200 illegal immigrants who would swarm across the border from Mexico, sprinting past the agents to a new life in the United States.

That was until 18 months ago, when the single fence was bolstered by two taller, steel barriers, watched over by video cameras and lit by a blaze of stadium lighting. Now the incursions known by the agents as "Banzai Runs" have all but stopped.

"It was overwhelming," said agent Andrew Patterson. "This used to be a huge trouble area, now we are almost down to zero."

The troubled patch of borderlands in this speck of a town in far west Arizona is among many places along the almost 2,000-mile (3,200-km) U.S.-Mexican border that are getting new fencing as part of a U.S. initiative to stem the flow of illegal immigrants.

Washington plans to build 670 miles of barriers, including pedestrian and vehicle fences, by the end of 2008. So far, more than 300 miles have been built, and the government is pushing hard in this election year to finish them, as mandated by the U.S. Congress.

While they are controversial -- some border landowners resent what they see as unwelcome government intrusion and some conservationists argue it disrupts wildlife flows -- border police say this stretch of new fencing has been highly effective.

"It has been a massive success. It has allowed our agents to gain control over the area and acted as a deterrent for people thinking of crossing," said Jeremy Schappell, a spokesman for the Border Patrol's Yuma sector, which includes San Luis.

SLOWING THE FLOW

Illegal immigration is a hot-button topic in the United States. A pledge to secure the porous southwest border with a combination of new barriers, increased manpower and new surveillance technologies is routinely made by both Democratic and Republican candidates seeking to be their party's pick to run for president in November.

The barrier erected in San Luis is similar in design to those pioneered in San Diego, California, and El Paso, Texas, in the 1990s, which helped the Border Patrol regain control of what were then the most heavily transited areas of the border, crossed by hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants each year.

The El Paso barrier -- two parallel chain link fences over 15 feet in height spaced 30 feet apart along the bed of the Rio Grande -- helped cut the number of illegal border crossers and curbed crime in the city, residents say.

The barrier has no barbed wire and includes several formal breaks, one where a freight train crosses from Ciudad Juarez, in Mexico, another to give access to the river bed, and is watched around the clock by border police spaced at intervals along the line.

But without 24-hour monitoring, as well as the stadium flood lights, and the directional cameras linked to a central control room manned by National Guard troops, the El Paso fence would be little deterrent.

"Along this stretch, the fence in itself doesn't stop anyone, but it does slow them down and gives us time to react. Those extra seconds are vital, and that's what a lot of people don't realize," said agent Jose Cisneros.

"You don't just put up a fence and say that is the end of it."

MOMENTS TO REACT

Graffiti is scrawled on the Mexican side of the gray concrete bed of the Rio Grande, while huge, cross-border highway bridges run over the top.

Every day, agents in El Paso face off against Mexican people smugglers who form groups to wait on the banks of the Rio Grande in broad daylight and wait for a moment to storm the fence, and sprint the few yards (meters) to the streets of El Paso.

"While in the countryside they cross under coverage of darkness. In the city, they wait until daylight so they can blend into the city population," Border Patrol agent Joe Romero told Reuters reporters during a recent tour of the area to see the barrier in action.

Reuters' correspondents witnessed two men crawl through the shallow, muddy Rio Grande and up the bank through the shaggy undergrowth on the U.S. side. There they climbed over the first fence, waded through a concrete irrigation canal and squeezed through a gap under the second fence, before running across the busy highway and into El Paso, where they were arrested.

"Whenever they think an agent is distracted or a camera is down, the smugglers tell the aliens to go for it," Romero said, highlighting the need for vigilance and rapid response for the fences to be effective in this urban strip.

"We are talking 10 to 15 seconds from the edge of the Rio Grande to the housing complex on the other side of the highway," he added.

SCALED BY PREGNANT WOMEN

As new barriers -- including single, double and triple layered pedestrian fences and lines of hefty steel posts sunk into the ground to stop vehicles -- carve out over hundreds of miles (kms) of borderlands amid political pressure for an end to illegal immigration, not all stretches of fencing are proving to be as effective.

A new single layer of steel mesh fence 10-13 feet tall stretches out across the rugged, high plains deserts and grasslands on either side of the small town of Naco, Arizona. The Border Patrol credits it with contributing to a fall in arrests, but some residents say it has done little to stop illegal immigrants.

In two recent visits to the area, Reuters correspondents found an improvised wooden ladder and stretches of garden hose used to scale the barrier, along with dozens of pieces of clothing and rucksacks apparently tossed by illegal border crossers as they breached it.

Local rancher John Ladd said some 300 to 400 illegal immigrants continue to clamber over the new steel barrier flanking the southern reach of his farm for some 10 miles (16 km) each day, as an effective combination of technologies and manpower remains elusive.

"It's so easy to climb that I've seen two women that were pregnant, I've seen several women in their sixties and all kinds of kids between five and ten years old climb over it," Ladd said, as he leaned on a section of the steel mesh fence that stretches like a rusted veil westward toward the rugged Huachuca Mountains.

"They're getting some help, but when you put it in perspective, its pretty amazing to have a nine-month pregnant woman climbing over that son of a gun, and thinking that this is going to be the answer to solve our immigration problem."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; fences; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist
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'Local rancher John Ladd said some 300 to 400 illegal immigrants continue to clamber over the new steel barrier flanking the southern reach of his farm for some 10 miles (16 km) each day, as an effective combination of technologies and manpower remains elusive.'

At 300 a day, that would be around 110K crossing over near his farm in a year. Wow. Thats just at that spot. Wow.

1 posted on 03/03/2008 9:06:35 AM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

He needs to invest in some Mexican fighting bulls or African cape buffaloes and pasture them along the fence area.


2 posted on 03/03/2008 9:08:54 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: BGHater

This “fences don’t work” stuff is pure BS.

The Berlin Wall all but stopped border crossing for decades.

We don;t need to give up on fences, we just need to built bigger fences — as I recall the Hunter fence was about right.


3 posted on 03/03/2008 9:09:48 AM PST by wilco200
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To: BGHater

They need some nasty non-lethal technologies to dissuade them.


4 posted on 03/03/2008 9:10:12 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgement has come.)
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To: wilco200

No argument there. I would suggest dropping the fence idea and try walls.

At some point we are gonna take this serious and treat it like a actual international border and a national security problem.


5 posted on 03/03/2008 9:11:52 AM PST by BGHater ($2300 is the limit of your Free Speech.)
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...some 300 to 400 illegal immigrants continue to clamber over the new steel barrier...

Hook up a few thousand volts to the steel.

6 posted on 03/03/2008 9:12:42 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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getusedtoit

Thanks Jorge. This will be YOUR legacy.

7 posted on 03/03/2008 9:13:07 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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To: BGHater

“Despite fences, immigrants still broach U.S. border”

“Immigrants” don’t broach a nation’s borders. They follow a previously established legal process toward citizenship. These people are criminals.

Maybe if I removed generous chunks of my frontal lobe with an ice cream scooper, I’d be stupid enough to be a journalist for Reuters.


8 posted on 03/03/2008 9:15:15 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: JimRed

We got that new “heat ray” gun. Just use those.


9 posted on 03/03/2008 9:15:39 AM PST by MarkeyD (Just another country bumpkin looking forward to Fred!)
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To: BGHater
Heavy fines for EVERY illegal that is employed.

Heavy fines for every landlord that rents to them.

Absolutely no HUD, Food Stamps or Health care.

Any child born in the US of illegal parents is also illegal.

If these rules are followed they will go back to where they belong and stop coming in illegally.

10 posted on 03/03/2008 9:17:35 AM PST by Dustbunny ((Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: wilco200
"This used to be a huge trouble area, now we are almost down to zero."

In lieberal newspeak almost down to zero = not 100% perfect and secure. Therefore, it is a failure and we must abandon it. Yesterday.

On the other hand, abject failures of lieberal solutions such as the war on poverty only mean we are not throwing enough money at it. Therefore, we need to increase funding.

11 posted on 03/03/2008 9:18:00 AM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: EyeGuy
Maybe if I removed generous chunks of my frontal lobe with an ice cream scooper, I’d be stupid enough to be a journalist for Reuters.

Do they make ice cream scoopers that big?

12 posted on 03/03/2008 9:19:39 AM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: BGHater
110K crossing over near his farm in a year.

I'd love to have the beer concession there.

13 posted on 03/03/2008 9:20:48 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: wilco200

And a fence in Israel stopped suicide bombers.


14 posted on 03/03/2008 9:24:17 AM PST by Exton1
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To: wilco200

Yes, but you omit the portions of the Berlin Wall that our fence doesn’t have:

1. Border Guards preauthorized and able to use deadly force 24/7,

2. Attack dogs between the fences,

3. Electrified fences (in selected places), and last but not least,

4. Land mines.

It is really just a matter of attitude toward the illegal crossers. Compared to the East Germans, we are just a bunch of softies. We prefer they escape as opposed to being seriously injured in the attempt. The East Germans preferred the illegal crossers dead as opposed to successfully escaping.


15 posted on 03/03/2008 9:24:53 AM PST by Captain Rhino ( If we have the WILL to do it, there is nothing built in China that we cannot do without.)
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To: wilco200
Anti-Fence, Pro-Illegal propaganda.

If fences didn’t work they wouldn’t have them around nuclear facilities, the White House and compounds of the Hollywood elite.

No, they are not 100% effective on the border, especially as stand alone structures without active Border Patrol backup, but they will be 99.99% effective as part of an integrated security system.

And that is precisely why democrat and republican hacks like Kennedy, McCain, Bush, Pelosi and Joe Baca are opposed to a real fence.

A real fence of steel, concrete, and wire costs a few percent of a “virtual fence” equipped with high tech gadgets and gee-gaws and is infinitely more effective.

A 15’ chain link fence isn’t even adequate for a schoolyard let alone a border under siege by millions of rabid illegals, drug dealers and evil-doers.

16 posted on 03/03/2008 9:28:10 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

“Thanks Jorge. This will be YOUR legacy.....”

Bush will go down as the president who did it his way....All wrong!


17 posted on 03/03/2008 9:28:35 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: EyeGuy

Nah, you don’t need to do that, just stick an icepick up off in the corner and stir around.


18 posted on 03/03/2008 9:30:43 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: BGHater

Must be that fancy new virtual fence they were talking about, you know the one like the Kings Clothes. Unfortunately it only keeps virtual immigrants out.


19 posted on 03/03/2008 9:33:24 AM PST by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: Captain Rhino

Are you suggesting that we should act as the East Germans did, or are you simply pointing out that we are not controlling the border as the East Germans did?


20 posted on 03/03/2008 9:38:28 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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