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New York City to make hybrid private hire limos mandatory from 2009
Auto Industry ^ | 29 Feb 2008 | Auto Industry

Posted on 03/03/2008 2:41:44 AM PST by BGHater

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced yesterday that the city’s Taxi and Limousine Commission (TLC) will require ‘black cars’ that service corporate clients to increase fuel efficiency standards to levels currently achievable only by using hybrid technology, though these (25 mpg by 2009, 30 mpg by 2010) could be met by some European diesel cars if they were permitted.

The plan to improve the fuel efficiency of the 10,000 black car fleet was envisioned as part of the Mayor's PlaNYC 2030, a set of 127 initiatives aimed at reducing New York's carbon emissions. In December last year, the TLC voted unanimously to approve regulations that will also require all yellow taxis licensed after 1st October 2008 to meet fuel efficiency standards currently only achievable through the use of hybrid technology.

Black cars currently release 272,000 tons of CO2 equivalents annually, which make up 2% of the City's transport-related emissions. Under the new standards, emissions from black cars will be cut in half.

To help drivers finance the down payment associated with buying a new car, the City has worked with partners in the financial sector, dealers, and black car fleets to develop a range of solutions that will finance the higher down payment.

Approximately 10,000 black cars operate in New York, typically through contracts with corporate clients. Currently, black cars average 12-15 mpg. The TLC will require fuel efficiency standards for new licensed black car vehicles of 25mpg in 2009 and 30mpg in 2010. Also included in the proposed rule change is a requirement for vehicle retirement. The TLC currently does not set a vehicle retirement age for for-hire vehicles as it does for yellow taxis. There will be a retirement phase-in cycle that will ensure almost all vehicles associated with black car bases are more fuel-efficient by 2013. Under the new standards, emissions from black cars will then be cut in half.

The TLC estimates that hybrid cars will save owner-operator drivers upwards of $5,000 per year in gasoline expenses - approximately 50% of their current fuel costs. These savings will allow drivers to cover, in just one year, the additional cost of purchasing a new hybrid car over the currently used Lincoln Town Car. As part of PlaNYC, the City proposed a State law to waive the City portion of the sales tax for vehicles that meet the EPA Elite standards for energy efficient vehicles It is also working with the Partnership for New York City, a group of international companies committed to cutting CO2 emissions in the city, and several financial institutions, on a programme to provide financing.

After consultation with users, fleets, and drivers - including demonstrations of the new vehicle types - the Mayor's Office of Long-term Planning and Sustainability and the TLC have identified several models that will have widespread acceptance, including: Toyota Camry Hybrid, 33mpg (city); Toyota Highlander Hybrid, 27mpg (city); Nissan Altima Hybrid, 35 mpg (city); and Mercury Mariner Hybrid FWD, 34 mpg (city). Other models may include: Lexus Rx400h AWD, Ford Escape Hybrid AWD, and Toyota Prius.

Two dealers for what NYC says are the most promising vehicles - Best Ford Taxi and Hudson Toyota / Penske Automotive Group - have committed to making financing packages available to black car drivers.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bloomberg; hybrid; limos; nyc
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1 posted on 03/03/2008 2:41:47 AM PST by BGHater
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Seems like a good plan to me (depending of course, on how they implement it). Diesel used to be rubbish compared to internal combustion but the new turbodiesels are much better.


2 posted on 03/03/2008 2:53:25 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: BGHater

New York City to make hybrid private hire limos mandatory from 2009....

NYC raising the price of a fare again!!!!


3 posted on 03/03/2008 3:07:39 AM PST by nyyankeefan
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To: nyyankeefan

They just raised the bridge and tunnels to $8.00..Bloomberg is a thief.


4 posted on 03/03/2008 3:11:13 AM PST by sonic109
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To: Vanders9

Name the hybrid vehicle you think can replace the workhorse Continental/Crown Vic in this usage.


5 posted on 03/03/2008 3:12:21 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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It’s right there in the article: The Toyota Prius /sarc off


6 posted on 03/03/2008 3:18:40 AM PST by anoldafvet (To liberals, building a wall across the Mexican border is a violation of the Voting Rights Act.)
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To: BGHater

I believe most of the limo companies buy older cars, re engine them and update the interior if necessary then run them for 100,000 miles or so. Much cheaper than buying new. Bloomberg will be putting most of them out of business with this, but then that’s what socialists do best.


7 posted on 03/03/2008 3:20:41 AM PST by saganite (Lust type what you what in the “tagline” space)
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To: Vanders9
Seems like a good plan to me (depending of course, on how they implement it). Diesel used to be rubbish compared to internal combustion but the new turbodiesels are much better.

You gonna be okay with it when Bloomie starts telling you exactly how to wipe your own a##?
8 posted on 03/03/2008 3:31:53 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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Bloomie doooosh-a-bag alert!

This little twerp of a billionaire has nothing going for him except his fabulous wealth, which makes a nobody into a somebody....

9 posted on 03/03/2008 3:32:09 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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“You gonna be okay with it when Bloomie starts telling you exactly how to wipe your own a##?”

Ah the cut and thrust of intelligent debate. There’s nothing quite like it.


10 posted on 03/03/2008 3:35:15 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: BGHater

Notice that the proposed rules don’t apply to private limos... So the bigwigs who have their own don’t have to worry about it, but those who rely on airport pick-ups and wedding or prom business have to cough up the cash for the more expensive cars...

Aren’t liberals fun?


11 posted on 03/03/2008 3:38:53 AM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Name the hybrid you think the “workhorse Continental/Crown Vic” has less fuel efficiency than, and produces less pollutants than, and costs less to run.


12 posted on 03/03/2008 3:41:16 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: TheBattman

I didnt notice that. Horrible isnt it? “Do as I say, not as I do...”


13 posted on 03/03/2008 3:42:15 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

Ah the blindness and absolute ignorance about the proper roll of government by a pseudo conservative . You got the response you deserved.


14 posted on 03/03/2008 3:46:41 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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Nobody deserves a response like that.

Just because 9 out of 10 environmentalists are left wing wackos doesn’t mean the city of New York does not have a problem with pollution, noise, and excessive waste. Now are we going to do something about it, or choke in the car fumes and continue paying the Saudis untold billions that they can pour back into muslim destabilisation efforts?

Those opposed to regulatory efforts like Kyoto often argue that improved technology is a better way of solving environmental problems. I agree. Here’s the technology. Are we going to be so blinded by doctrine that we refuse to take advantage of it? If we do refuse, it’s going to be much harder to oppose Kyoto (or its successor treaties) in the future. And there will be other treaties...

As for “proper role of government” well the government decrees how fast you can drive your car, where you can drive your car, it even provides most of the roads the car drives on. Are those proper roles of government? If the city owns the roads, and these vehicles are licenced by the city, then surely the city can decide what vehicles get licenced, not so?


15 posted on 03/03/2008 4:53:06 AM PST by Vanders9
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>>costs less to run.

If it truly costs less to run, do you not think the livery companies wouldn’t be buying them already?


16 posted on 03/03/2008 4:53:19 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster
Name the hybrid vehicle you think can replace the workhorse Continental/Crown Vic in this usage.

That would be the company that Bloomberg has invested in of course.

17 posted on 03/03/2008 4:54:23 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: FreedomPoster
"Name the hybrid vehicle you think can replace the workhorse Continental/Crown Vic in this usage."

heheh that is the choice if you are one of Al Gore's faithful

18 posted on 03/03/2008 5:02:17 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Vanders9
Seems like a good plan to me (depending of course, on how they implement it).

What exactly about this mandatory environut plan is "good"?

19 posted on 03/03/2008 5:02:30 AM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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So the limousine liberals are getting more efficient? What’s next, lowering the temperature on their hot tubs?
20 posted on 03/03/2008 5:06:12 AM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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