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Posted on 02/29/2008 5:48:51 PM PST by NormsRevenge
>> “For instance, the Pioneers are flying out of the solar system — they’re not bound to their central body, the sun. “
Of course, it needs to be included in the set of possibilities that the probes are not experiencing irregular change in relative velocity.
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Wow, love hurts!
It’s Planet X.
Maybe this guy had something to do with it ..... 
A disturbance in the force?
[Induction: "The generation of an electromotive force in a closed circuit by a varying magnetic flux through the circuit."]
The Problem with Gravity: New Mission Would Probe Strange Puzzle
By Robert Roy Britt
Senior Science Writer
posted: 18 October 2004
Imagine the weight of a nagging suspicion that what held your world together, a constant and consistent presence you had come to understand and rely on, wasn't what it seemed. That's how scientists feel when they ponder gravity these days. For more than three centuries, the basics of gravity were pretty well understood. Newton described the force as depending on an object's mass. Though it extends infinitely, gravity weakens with distance (specifically, by the inverse square of the distance). Einstein built on these givens in developing his theory of relativity. Then more than a decade ago a researcher noticed something funny about two Pioneer spacecraft that were streaming toward the edge of the solar system. They weren't where they should have been.
Something was holding the probes back, according to calculations of their paths, speed and how the gravity of all the objects in the solar system -- and even a tiny push provided by sunlight -- ought to act on them.
Now scientists have proposed a new mission to figure out what's up with gravity.
Staggering possibilities
Pioneer 10 and 11 launched in 1972 and 1973. Today each is several billion miles away, heading in opposite directions out of the solar system.
The discrepancy caused by the anomaly amounts to about 248,500 miles (400,000 kilometers), or roughly the distance between Earth and the Moon. That's how much farther the probes should have traveled in their 34 years, if our understanding of gravity is correct. (The distance figure is an oversimplification of the actual measurements, but more on that in a moment.)
Scientists are quick to suggest the Pioneer anomaly, as they call it, is probably caused by the space probes themselves, perhaps emitting heat or gas. But the possibilities have been tested and modeled and penciled out, and so far they don't add up.
Which leaves open staggering possibilities that would force wholesale reprinting of all physics books:
Invisible dark matter is tugging at the probes
Other dimensions create small forces we don't understand
Gravity works differently than we think
lot's more at:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mystery_monday_041018.html
Shouldn’t make a difference what the weight is.
A hammer and a feather on the moon should fall at exactly the same rate.
In fact, I’ve looked closely at some of the vids of the moon landings and watched the dust fall.
The dust falls exactly as it should in an airless environment, thus debunking the “We never went to the moon” loonies.
I sincerely believe it is “anti-gravity”. Years ago I knew a geophysicist that was doing gravity research for the Air Force. Even missles from an airplane are corrected for regional gravity effects. Things never quite worked out, and there were suspicions of a small repulsive gravity force. Although that was years ago and haven’t heard anything else regarding it, so perhaps it was a wild goose chase.
Forbush decrease effect? Although typically thought of as an indication of future solar activity, the Sun’s Great Conveyor Belt has slowed to a record-low crawl that’s considered “off the bottom of the charts.” A slow belt means lower solar activity. Less plasma circulation = less solar flares and radiation storms = less magnetic force fields and increased radiation acting upon spacecraft. It would be interesting to see the solar activity at the time of all referenced flybys.
“While this is just one-millionth of that probe’s total velocity, the precision of the velocity measurements was 0.1 millimeters per second.....”
The good folks that test my software are like this bunch. All I can say is “Perfect is the enemy of good”.
Here's the full story on the amazing mine shaft experiments:
A hammer and a feather on the moon should fall at exactly the same rate.
Correct, but a higher mass object would have a greater inertia.
We don’t understand gravity, in a perfect manner. Hell, I’m sitting on a chair held up by spinning molecules and if the gravity field were any different by the slightest degree, I’d be flattened on the floor (or worse) or on the ceiling looking down....
Did Karl Rove make an upgrade to his weather machine?
Weight is the least of my worries.
We stamped our Earth address on Pioneer. What if an alien drops in and expects a free meal, a free room and a free education? Wait...we already have aliens that expect that.
Never mind...
Sounds like you're describing "dark energy". But I don't think it's suppose to have much of an effect on minor scales like the solar system. It's thought to kick in at cosmic expansion (big Bang) scales.
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