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1 posted on 02/27/2008 5:43:03 PM PST by Patriotic Thunder
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To: Patriotic Thunder

Is anybody surprised?


2 posted on 02/27/2008 5:46:26 PM PST by George from New England
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To: Patriotic Thunder

Another casualty of outsourcing and of trade with China.

If you can, ALWAYS pay more for non-metallic crowns. The bonus is that they look almost exactly like teeth, too.


3 posted on 02/27/2008 5:47:19 PM PST by RepublitarianRoger2
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Gee, isn’t that special.


4 posted on 02/27/2008 5:49:03 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureā„¢)
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To: theDentist

American Dentists are placing LEAD contaminated crowns from China


Now I know YOU would never do this, right?


5 posted on 02/27/2008 5:51:09 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Patriotic Thunder

I’ve been really good at not buying food that says ‘product of china’ and don’t buy generic drugs anymore... but apparently that isn’t good enough with a majority of precursors coming from over there, and major pharmaceutical companies relocating manufacturing over there.

Nixon went to China.

‘Global trade’ is just another way of saying Welcome to the third (turd) world, Americans. We’ve sunk to their level with the gracious help of our friends in power. It didn’t have to happen though. We encouraged it. Ask any bot.


6 posted on 02/27/2008 5:57:36 PM PST by glock rocks ( I can see clearly now the brain is gone... gonna be a bright bright sunshiny day.)
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I wonder how the lead you absorb from dental parts from China compares with the leas absorbed from using leaded gasoline...


8 posted on 02/27/2008 6:05:38 PM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Patriotic Thunder

My dentist uses porcelain crowns made by a Japanese artisan living in California. Cheap they are not!


13 posted on 02/27/2008 6:20:29 PM PST by proxy_user
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Toys leaching lead over 90 parts per million are hazardous, so what about 210 parts per million in your mouth?

Let's think about that. How long will it take that crown to "leach" that 210 parts per million? How long does it take a crown to dissolve in your mouth? Is this really a lead poisoning hazard, or just a lot of innuendo that creates the perception. Public service, or fearmongering sensationalism?

16 posted on 02/27/2008 6:31:14 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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ping


27 posted on 02/27/2008 7:06:09 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Patriotic Thunder

A buddy of mine is a partner at a dental lab in KC. I’ll have to ask him about this.

Mark


29 posted on 02/27/2008 7:08:21 PM PST by MarkL
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American dentists have been using mercury tainted fillings for generations. I think that’s why I’m getting a root canal job every 6 months now.


30 posted on 02/27/2008 7:10:21 PM PST by DManA
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To: Patriotic Thunder

btt


34 posted on 02/27/2008 7:43:58 PM PST by FreeInWV
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To: Patriotic Thunder

If you ever need a crown go to a dentist who makes his own. You get your crown the same day. It is wonderful. They also look and fit better.


36 posted on 02/27/2008 7:56:15 PM PST by therut
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You would think someone would have come up with a titanium crown by now. Coat it with titanium dioxide and it stays white forever ... and it will never get sunburned, either.


37 posted on 02/27/2008 7:57:09 PM PST by LiberConservative
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bump


41 posted on 02/27/2008 8:02:20 PM PST by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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I'm in need of a root canal and a new crown - its either that or allow the infection to spread and incur worse damage to the healthier teeth. Sometimes one does need to avail oneself of the dentist.
42 posted on 02/27/2008 8:03:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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So my gold crown could have lead in it?


56 posted on 02/27/2008 8:46:17 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Patriotic Thunder
This story has more layers than an onion.

Yesterday, I received an email from the National Association of Dental Laboratories (NADL), outlining this problem with Chinese dental lab products.

They pointed me to their website to get updates on the story. When I got there, the story and updates were only available to NADL paying menbers with a site user account. Pretty useless.

Do a search online for dental labs; you should get plenty of hits. Dig a little deeper and look for fee schedules or price lists. You won’t find many. The story was much different, even 5 years ago. Lots of labs published their prices.

The dirty little secret is that the $600 - $1200 you paid to a dentist for a crown has a lot of in dental office markup.

In most cases when a dental office sends out crown work, the cost of a crown from a domestic dental lab to that same dentist is $80 to $250. (I know some of the folks getting $250, they are very exacting artists/craftsmen, worth every penny. They represent a very small fraction of the work sold in the US today) Work sent overseas commands as little as $55. Sure, the dentist did a crown prep and took impressions, and then cemented the restoration into place, but did he really deserve that huge markup?

The story also seeks to portray the dentists as victims of underhanded dental labs, both domestic and foreign. What a crock. Did anyone seek to find out just what percentage of dental work sent to China from the US is sent by labs and what percentage is sent directly by dentists? Of course not, or the average dentist greed would be shown to be even more pronounced.

Did you know that it is illegal in most states for a dental lab to deal directly with the public? Some latitude is allowed for labs to take shades for restorations which are prescribed by dentists, and some very few states have denturist legislation, whereby people can get lower cost dentures.

Dentistry is a closed shop. Break a tooth out of a denture and a dental lab can’t help you without a dentist’s prescription. The lab may charge a dentist $50 for the single tooth repair. How much does the dentist then charge the patient?

Your kid loses his retainer after orthodontic treatment. The lab bills the dentist for less than $45 for an average retainer. How much did the dental office charge the parents for the replacement?

Dental technicians are unregulated. Anyone can call himself a dental technician. Reputable technicians have tried for years to institute minimal standards for their profession, but to little success. The dentist lobby has blocked most of these attempts. Ask a dentist why.

The NADL has has an adjunct, the National Board for Certification, or NBC. It sponsors a voluntary certification process, which awards the title of CDT or Certified Dental Technician, to successful candidates.

Some states, such as Texas, require that dental labs in their state have at least one CDT in the lab operating in Texas. There are no broad requirements for all dental technicians in their state.

Did you know that there are no specific standards for US dentists who do their own lab work? I have seen the lab work of many dentists, few could meet the standards of the voluntary CDT program. Neither the states nor the state components of the American Dental Association seem interested in regulating dental technology as performed by dentists, nor establishing objective criteria for the regulation of dental technology.

Caveat emperator, let the buyer beware.

57 posted on 02/27/2008 8:47:08 PM PST by Sursum Corda
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To: Patriotic Thunder

Ironically, I think that China and the third and fourth world overall is recycling our own foreign electronic components.

Regular solder contains silver and lots of lead. It’s pretty common for the poor to cook it off of circuit boards to sell to those to refine it further for jewelery or whatever.


59 posted on 02/27/2008 8:56:40 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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bttt for later


63 posted on 02/27/2008 11:34:09 PM PST by boxerblues
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