America's grain stocks running short (food security and export control?)

The Grand Island Independent ^ | 02/24/08 | By Robert Pore

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

I know, back in the 1950’s there were fleets of old WWII Liberty Ships in the Hudson, and they were filling them with grain because they were out of storage silos.

[Balding_Eagle]

The people who understand economics and government programs didn't think food would get cheaper. Did you?

I've understood this from way back in the 70's when I chaffed under the 'Cheap Food for Consumers Programs' as a farmer myself.

From the ferociousness of the threads about food prices, I would say that the majority of folks here didn't realize it.

[null and void]

Welcome to FR...

[Etoo]

>>Should we do the same with the oil subsidies?

 

Depends on whether you're in favor of true free markets,

or if you're manipulating energy markets to realize the hypercapitalistic corporate communist empire envisioned by Bill Clinton's globalist mentor:

 

 

 

[null and void]

Do I dare ask what that is????????

Yes, you dare...

[Toddsterpatriot]

Everyone thought food would get cheaper without those programs,

I apologize. I misread your post. I thought it said food would get cheaper with these programs. Of course meddling with the markets and spending tax dollars will raise the cost we pay for food (and taxes).

You don't think these market meddling Congresscritters really lowered the cost to Americans for food, do you?

[Gabz]

LOL!!!!

I think I’ll stick with corn and other veggies, rather than some sci-fi plants :)

[null and void]

You’re thinking of trifids. The Cobaifera tree is also know as the Diesel tree, its sap can be used as a motor fuel without further refining.

[Etoo]

[it was going to take some outside force acting on the market to push crop prices up]

Thanks for admitting that ethanol is not an economically viable energy source without government mandates.

So you’re in favor of mandated ethanol consumption; Why not remove the government mandates and let the free market decide what farmers produce?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Should we do the same with the oil subsidies?

Would we be getting rid of taxes on oil? Would we get rid of the whining about oil imports?

[Etoo]

>>Buy oil stocks or grain futures!

When exactly was it, when morality became dependent upon the number of 0’s to the left of the decimal point on one’s portfolio statement?

[Mr. Lucky]

Exactly when you joined FreeRepublic and became an instant expert on how other people’s property should be valued. You’re free to buy as many bushels of corn and do whatever you want with them, eat them, feed them to your cows, give them away to the deserving inhabitants of some third world cesspool, whatever.

[Gabz]

Gotcha! I was confugled :)

[Balding_Eagle]

Why not remove the government mandates and let the free market decide what farmers produce?

It's 2008. The Cheap Food for Consumers is out of business this year.

You have your wish.

Based on history, I'm guessing you're not going to be happy.

[Balding_Eagle]

Is that a long winded yes?

[Balding_Eagle]

You don't think these market meddling Congresscritters really lowered the cost to Americans for food, do you?

There's 50 years of history to back up up the fact they been very successful in doing so.

Well, OK, not Congress, but it is done by the USDA under their authority.

[null and void]

*shrug* Welcome to my world!

[Balding_Eagle]

No to both.

The question hangs in the air, should we end subsidies for oil?

[Balding_Eagle]

Thanks for admitting that ethanol is not an economically viable energy source without government mandates.

You could have just asked, I would have given a candid answer.

[Gabz]

I hear ya! I’m generally in the same world.