Posted on 02/24/2008 9:54:45 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Chinese Submarine Fleet Is Growing, Analysts Say
By DAVID LAGUE
BEIJING Several recent events, from an eagle-eyed spotting of an image on Google Earth to an overt military delivery from Russia, suggest that China is continuing its rapid expansion of a submarine fleet that would be particularly useful in a conflict with the United States over Taiwan, analysts and military officials said.
American and other Western military analysts estimate that China has more than 30 advanced and increasingly stealthy submarines, and dozens of older, obsolete types. By the end of the decade, they say, China will have more submarines than the United States, although it will still lag behind in overall ability.
I would say that the U.S. feels a strong threat from Chinese submarines, said Andrei Chang, an expert on Chinese and Taiwan military forces and editor of Kanwa Defense Review. China now has more submarines than Russia, and the speed they are building them is amazing.
The United States Navy developed a range of antisubmarine sensors and weapons in the cold war that are still considered the worlds best. But fighting submarines has been less of a military priority since then, experts say.
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Ping!
Well, if their consumer products are any indication of the quality of their armaments, their submariners will have a pretty high turnover rate.
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Just wait until a Democratic Administration. We won’t have any submarines at all.
Note: You can create many different type of Submarine, Dolphin, Shark, swimming monster etc.
...thats because they used Miracle Grow.
I am an AMATEUR analyst, with only private resources, but can see that China intends to be able to win a naval war with the USA in the West Pacific. To have this capability China MUST control near earth space over the battle zone. This is why the recent destruction of the derelict satellite disturbed the PLA so much.
Locating and destroying submarines is way different nowadays than it was 1944. What hasn’t changed is that it is a team sport.
Another reality China faces is that a naval war with the USA will provoke a US attack along Silk Road routes. US forces in Iraq are adequate to cause real problems for the PLA. A change in the American relationship with Russia is in order as well.
Of course China will fight us using the Sun Tsu Way. This worked for them in 1975. They hope for a repeat. Unfortunately this is where we are weakest. Or appear so, eh?
Do you think this will really happen soon?
Of course China will fight us using the Sun Tsu Way.
Yeah, they are not really good when it comes to head-on confrontation, unless they are vastly superior in man power and resources.
Many in the West miss this point.
As you know, their concept of warfare is broad. Political maneuvering, fifth-column agitation, recruiting agents of influence, and economic disruption are all part of their warfare package.
Many in the West miss this point.
maye so, but the Cold war showed we're no slouches at using the same methods...don't write us off too quickly.
Hey Jeff ... you’re an an analyst !
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Sometime between the end of the ‘08 Summer Olympics and early ‘09, I expect China to waltz (sail) into Formosa and flip us the finger.
Ya, Taiwan will bloody their nose a bit in the process, but China has lots of expendable noses.
as a ex bubblehead rider, i can assure you that technical arrogance is the guaranteed recipe for defeat every time...
bttt
Thanks Wal*Mart.
For selling out America.
The ability to build a sub and the ability to operate a sub are two different things.
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