[PAR35]

You have to lose at least 3 planes to become president.

Who are you referring to. Can't be McCain; he's supposed to be an 'ace'. Corpus, Spain, near Philadelphia, friendly fire on the Forrestal (ok, not really your fault when you get shot down while sitting on the deck), and near Hanoi.

[Calvin Locke]

Heard a caller on Dennis Miller a week or two ago. Said he was retired Navair, and his research on McCain showed *three* in flight school. "Good thing his father was an admiral..." was among the other comments the guy had.

Remember Bush 41 got shot down in combat. Don't know about any non-combat losses.

LBJ got a Silver Star (thanks, MacArthur) for going on a bombing mission as an observer. (Only WWII congress critter that didn't resigned seat when he enlisted.)

Don't know about any Bush 41 losses, either.