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1 posted on 02/18/2008 9:26:26 PM PST by neverdem
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2 posted on 02/18/2008 9:27:56 PM PST by vox_freedom
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MHO as a retired (yes!) shrink, is that the disorder, depression, itself, is the underlying scourge and not the anti-depressant medications, whether they be SSR or tricyclics or whatever. Depression can be very serious and very debilitating to body and mind. Recovery therefrom is not always smooth sailing no matter whether Rx is used or not.


3 posted on 02/18/2008 9:33:41 PM PST by Rudder
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So now if I take a pill or not I am equally likely to be cured.

Earlier I found out that whether or not I see a shrink I had the same probability of success.

Now I'm really depressed.

4 posted on 02/18/2008 9:38:20 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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Together, they created a Web site, SSRIstories.com, which catalogs more than 2,000 news stories detailing violent acts -- murders, suicides, school shootings -- by individuals taking SSRIs...

Because we all know that untreated, these individuals would have not committed such violent acts, or at least would not do so at a rate greater than the bulk population. This is Nobel material folks.

5 posted on 02/18/2008 9:38:29 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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Might as well just prescribe a 6-pack of beer. It’s all just don’t-give-damn medicine, and the beer is cheaper.


6 posted on 02/18/2008 9:39:10 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberals: can't live with them, can't ship them to Canada.)
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>>2,000 news stories detailing violent acts — murders, suicides, school shootings — by individuals taking SSRIs.<<

My guess is that they are likely prescribed to a population more likely to do such things.

We’d also need to compare. How many total articles total?

The Google news archive shows 1.9 million articles with the word “murder” If a quarter of the population takes anti-depressants then 2,000 articles is very low, not high.


7 posted on 02/18/2008 9:41:43 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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I love IowaHawk's brilliant analysis of these type of poorly researched sensationalism pieces:


8 posted on 02/18/2008 9:49:13 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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I take Luvox, a SSRI and without it my life is too painful to live.I try not to live in the past but some things are hard to forget. My doc is not a pill pusher, some people have a REAL needs for these drugs.


31 posted on 02/18/2008 11:06:24 PM PST by BruceysMom (taking my half out of the middle.)
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Take a drug if I get depressed?

Hell no! I go down the hill and give paper targets and old cans a severe case of lead poisoning...works EVERY time!

I highly recommend it!

43 posted on 02/19/2008 12:24:00 AM PST by JDoutrider (No 2nd Amendment... Know Tyranny)
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patch’s advice :

keep your hand out of the medicine jar


46 posted on 02/19/2008 1:35:14 AM PST by patch789
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Maybe Dr Paul Pots is right.


47 posted on 02/19/2008 1:52:31 AM PST by NoLibZone (If the Clinton years were so great, why is Osama doing so well?)
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Drugs, pfff! Finish your chores, pray, and get some exercise. Like Eddie Lawrence used to say, lift your head up high and take a walk in the sun.
Then if you still feel like crying, maybe you need to have a good cry. Have it, rinse, and then repeat step 1.


49 posted on 02/19/2008 2:31:04 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast ( Peel back tabs for tagline. Do not remove this label. Obey.)
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btt


54 posted on 02/19/2008 4:44:19 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Certain SSRI's are particularly dangerous if given while a woman is on Tamoxifen for breast cancer, as it reduces the bioavailability of the active metabolite and reduces the effectiveness of the Tamoxifen.
66 posted on 02/19/2008 5:27:39 AM PST by SC DOC
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Certain SSRI's are particularly dangerous if given while a woman is on Tamoxifen for breast cancer, as it reduces the bioavailability of the active metabolite and reduces the effectiveness of the Tamoxifen.
67 posted on 02/19/2008 5:28:04 AM PST by SC DOC
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Much of this is nonsense and more stigma towards those who suffer mental illness. Are you sure of what major depression is really like for those who suffer it? The illness is not having a bad day or a series of bad days. There are guidelines that are used in diagnosing. Fortunately the medications are helping some individuals. Mental illness has had a long history of criticism and social disgrace. There is abuse of these medications as with many other types of medicines. Some people may have bipolar disorder which is not always helped by antidepressants. Many of those who do use violence may benefit from a different combination of medications. When you hear someone went off their meds- do you know what the meds were? Suicide used to go unreported in the past because of the embarrassment families kept it quiet. Are we sure it has such a strong relationship to antidepressants?


70 posted on 02/19/2008 7:10:36 AM PST by michgirl
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Yes, and we all know the dark side LIBERALISM


88 posted on 02/19/2008 2:15:04 PM PST by ronnie raygun (Id rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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102 posted on 02/19/2008 5:10:21 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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My observation is that the incidence of “depression” has tripled over the same 30 year period that we’ve seen a marked decrease in the role of organized religion, in the lives of the average American family.

It seems clear that a lack of faith is contributing factor in the occurrence of depression. The percentage of people who charcterize themselves as "Spiritual, but not Religious", is amazing.

106 posted on 02/19/2008 5:47:35 PM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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If the state of my mind as I type this is nothing but biochemistry, then there is no such thing as God, no such thing as soul, no such thing as spirit. Go play with your toys children. Play will make the chemicals in your brain make you feel better.


120 posted on 02/19/2008 7:46:33 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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