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Where have all the sunspots gone?
Watts Up With That? ^ | 02/13/2008 | Watts Up With That?

Posted on 02/15/2008 4:54:28 PM PST by TheHound

It is normal for our sun to have quiet periods between solar cycles, but we’ve seen months and months of next to nothing, and the start of Solar cycle 24 seems to have materialized (as first reported here) then abruptly disappeared.

Given the current quietness of the sun and it’s magnetic field, combined with the late start to cycle 24 with even possibly a false start, it appears that the sun has slowed it’s internal dynamo to a similar level such as was seen during the Dalton Minimum. One of the things about the Dalton Minimum was that it started with a skipped solar cycle, which also coincided with a very long solar cycle 4 from 1784-1799. The longer our current cycle 23 lasts before we see a true ramp up of cycle 24, the greater chance it seems then that cycle 24 will be a low one.

No wonder there is so much talk recently about global cooling. I certainly hope that’s wrong, because a Dalton type solar minimum would be very bad for our world economy and agriculture. NASA GISS published a release back in 2003 that agrees with the commonly accepted idea that long period trends in solar activity do affect our climate by changing the Total Solar Irradiance (TSI).

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KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; globalwarming; solar; sunspots
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To: TheHound

This is a pantload. Everyone knows man, and man alone, is responsible for the air temp here on Earth.

The Sun? Just a medium sized star, nothing more.

Everytime I start my lawn mower, I’m melting an ice cap. That’s REAL power, baby.


61 posted on 02/15/2008 6:52:40 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Southerngl
“I am Cornholio, me need TP for me bunghole.”

LOL!!!

Thanks for the memories.

62 posted on 02/15/2008 6:52:42 PM PST by ryan71
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63 posted on 02/15/2008 7:18:12 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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To: Duke Nukum
Maybe they are with the missing honey bees?

This is in no way related but this morning I found, on my kitchen table, a gray, glass vessel shaped like a honey pot. On it were the words; "So long, and thanks for all the blossoms!"

64 posted on 02/15/2008 7:23:26 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: gorush

Only deniers believe that the Sun has anything to do with earth temperatures.


65 posted on 02/15/2008 7:46:01 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: Duke Nukum

Well, that isn’t exactly what I said. I said the wild ones aren’t being wiped out. The domesticated ones are. It is still a significant percentage of bees being wiped out. The key thing to focus on is that the ones man messed around with and ‘made better’ are the ones that are dying off. That is the definition of ironic. Man knows best, right?


66 posted on 02/15/2008 7:46:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: geo40xyz

I’m pushing the term “Gore-Hansen Minimum” if it comes to that.


67 posted on 02/15/2008 7:51:56 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Reaganesque; headsonpikes; Windflier; catbertz; Mrs. Don-o
yup, Peter, Paul, and Mary.
that was the first thing I thought of, when I saw the title of this article...
-and I hated that stupid song! ;^D


Where have all the flowers gone, long time passing?
Where have all the flowers gone, long time ago?
Where have all the flowers gone?
Young girls have picked them everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?
etc, etc, ad nauseum


-but seriously? The liberal/enivro-wackos will probably be wishing for some sunspots, else they are going to feel very, very foolish for falling for this scam.

68 posted on 02/15/2008 8:12:51 PM PST by FBD ("I am sure that Senator Clinton would make a good president," ~ John McCain on NBC's "Meet the Press)
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To: SampleMan

Actually they will probably just tell us how their hard work has stopped the globe from burning up.


69 posted on 02/15/2008 8:15:21 PM PST by redangus
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To: catbertz

I’m 43.


70 posted on 02/15/2008 8:35:30 PM PST by Reaganesque (What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. --Oscar Wilde)
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To: Mike Darancette
"Only deniers believe that the Sun has anything to do with earth temperatures."

George Washington crossed the Delaware river in a rowboat dodging icebergs. Remember the Revolutionary War? Those were cold times.

71 posted on 02/15/2008 9:00:48 PM PST by BobS
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To: Mrs. Don-o
?"The Dalton Minimum was a period of low solar activity, lasting from about 1790 to 1830. " Can't be all bad. In the USA, wasn't that the "Era of Good Feeling"?

And it was pretty d*mn cold. Niagara Falls froze dead every winter. You could walk from Manhattan to Jersey or Long Island over 3 foot thick ice.

72 posted on 02/15/2008 9:25:31 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
This is in no way related but this morning I found, on my kitchen table, a gray, glass vessel shaped like a honey pot. On it were the words; "So long, and thanks for all the blossoms!"

LOL! I can hear them buzzing it!

73 posted on 02/15/2008 10:16:05 PM PST by Duke Nukum (I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

well, I would call that unintended consequences. It is too bad they are dying but at least the wild ones are okay so that is a big relief to me.


74 posted on 02/15/2008 10:18:54 PM PST by Duke Nukum (I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards.)
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To: TheHound

I’m sure that all of the man-made CO2 has starved the Sun of the oxygen necessary to produce sun spots!........./sarc


75 posted on 02/15/2008 10:21:17 PM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: The_Republican

We still need more rain, bring it on...


76 posted on 02/15/2008 10:22:23 PM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: SirKit

Any yet in February?


77 posted on 02/15/2008 11:40:54 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: geo40xyz
Where’s Al Gore when we need him? His hot air will warn things up:-()

If this does turn out to be another low sunspot period, thus causing global cooling, it should be called the "Algore Minimum".

78 posted on 02/15/2008 11:45:17 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Reaganesque
Jeez! I am so old! Anyone get that? At all?

*snort* Oh yeah, I do.

Long time ago.

79 posted on 02/15/2008 11:50:14 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Rurudyne

That is *such* a winner!


80 posted on 02/16/2008 2:05:39 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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