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McCain Still Fighting for Conservative GOP Support & Gary Bauer
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 2-15-08 | Linda Feldman

Posted on 02/14/2008 3:53:04 PM PST by Wayiseeit

"Bit by bit, McCain is drawing conservatives to his side. Family values activist Gary Bauer endorsed McCain this week." See whole article here: http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0215/p02s01-uspo.html

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bauer; liberal; liberalagenda; mccain; rino
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To: factmart

I look foward to working to oust Levin and Stabenow in coming elections and I’ve got a good conservative congressman I’ll continue to support.


21 posted on 02/14/2008 4:32:08 PM PST by cripplecreek (Just call me M.O.M. (Maverick Opposed to McCain.))
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To: plain talk

THANK YOU


22 posted on 02/14/2008 4:32:25 PM PST by factmart
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To: plain talk

I think when alot of people actually get inside the voting booth and see Barak Hussein Obama as candidate for the POTUS, the shock of that possibility will really hit home.
It is a resounding NO to OSAMA OBAMA. All of our efforts in Iraq in the toilet if that man gets in.


23 posted on 02/14/2008 4:33:25 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: factmart
"ONE THING WE NEED TO DO IS VOTE REPLUBLICAN FOR ALL OTHER OFFICES!"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>............... By your logic I would have voted for Gilchrest in MD he was the party backed RINO, we here in the peoples republic voted the bum out and have a conservative running in the general Andy Harris.
Stick to your guns Conservatives or we are lost. Only support conservatives to save the GOP from itself - perhaps too late. May A new Conservative party be born from the Ashes of the coming defeat.

24 posted on 02/14/2008 4:37:06 PM PST by shadowgovernment
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To: JaneNC
I think when alot of people actually get inside the voting booth and see Barak Hussein Obama as candidate for the POTUS, the shock of that possibility will really hit home.

It is a resounding NO to OSAMA OBAMA. All of our efforts in Iraq in the toilet if that man gets in.

Someone Should have thought about that before they made MCNUTS the nominee.

25 posted on 02/14/2008 4:38:15 PM PST by factmart
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To: shadowgovernment
It is time to ask is the GOP a conservative party?

The GOP answered no to that question a long time ago.
26 posted on 02/14/2008 4:41:05 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: factmart
ONE THING WE NEED TO DO IS VOTE REPLUBLICAN FOR ALL OTHER OFFICES!

CAN WE AGREE ON THAT!


Only if they are Conservative.
27 posted on 02/14/2008 4:43:38 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: JaneNC
You are probably correct. However, we have a very long way to go before McCain is the nominee.

I have been a conservative since the early sixties. After decades we finally had the house, senate, and the white house. Can you name any major socialist program we repealed? How about a minor program? How about defending and preserving free speech? No? How about loading the bench with conservative judges. Sorry the dims were filibustering them. We were going to break the dims back on this issue and in doing so mark the first retreat for socialism/communism in America in my lifetime. And we did it right? Uh, no. Then we want to legalize 20 or so million don’t we and...have a wide open border correct? No?

Who was behind all this? McCain. And this is a partial list. Please forgive my sarcasm. It is not directed at you. Perhaps a McCain operative will read it. Perhaps even Big Mac himself.

So Big Mac...you can earn my vote. But you have a long way to go. I don’t trust you sir, I don’t trust the RNC, and I certainly don’t trust Republican leadership. My vote is the only thing of value I possess in this voting cycle. You will pay dearly to get it. The body of my principles and beliefs has too many knives sticking out of it for me to forgive and forget.

Mitt, if you are reading this, today you lost any chance for earning my vote in the future with your craven endorsement. What is next, assigning you delegates to McCain? (Sorry my bad. My wife informs that Mitt released his delegates.)

28 posted on 02/14/2008 4:53:18 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: shadowgovernment
GOP BOTS will tell us he has flaws but the other side is so much worse

shadowgovernment, I'm so glad you brought that up as I have a little something for the G-bots that tell you such things. Fasten you seat belt. Trays to their upright position…

< Began Rant >

Ok

That’s it.

I’m getting more that a little tired of this “perfect candidate” crap. We are not talking about a "few flaws." We are talking about the scummiest s.o.b. that is still too CHICKEN to put a D next to his name and that little baztard’s name is John McCain

So, for all the sniveling, scared, weak-kneed, go-along-to-get-along, RINO butt kissers, this is the only way I am "voting" FROM NOW ON!

Their argument goes like this… “ok he is not perfect but we need to hold our noses and vote for the turd anyway because hey it’s better than that so and so over there.”

So, just what happens? We get the turd and loose a few points but the communists get a bit bolder because they don’t look so bad next to the newly elected TURD!

Next election… … “ok he is not perfect but we need to hold our noses and vote for the turd anyway because hey it’s better than that so and so over there.” The communists get a bit bolder because they don’t look so bad next to the newly elected TURD!

Next election… … “ok he is not perfect but we need to hold our noses and vote for the turd anyway because hey it’s better than that so and so over there.” The communists get a bit bolder because they don’t look so bad next to the newly elected TURD!

Next election… … “ok he is not perfect but we need to hold our noses and vote for the turd anyway because hey it’s better than that so and so over there.” The communists get a bit bolder because they don’t look so bad next to the newly elected TURD!

So we vote for a candidate that is oh, 80% of what we really need, thus loosing 20%

As they say, do the math.

You need 100% but you only get 80% of what you need.

Next election?
You have 80% but you only get 64% of what you need.

Next election?
You have 64% but you only get 51% of what you need.

Next election?
You have 51% but you only get 40% of what you need.

Next election?
You have 40% but you only get 32% of what you need.

Next election?
You have 32% but you only get 20% of what you need.

Next election?
You have 20% but you only get 16% of what you need.

Next election?
You have 16% but you only get 13% of what you need.

Next election?
You have 13% but you only get 10% of what you need.

Next election?
You have 10% but you only get 8% of what you need.

Next election?
You have 8% but you only get 6% of what you need.

Next election?
You have 6% but you only get to vote for the communist butt kisser.

Then you wind up with a situation that produces statements such as the following.

“You can thank the Republicans "hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils" strategy for the advancement of Socialism within the party and the nation.

Joseph Farah

The advancement of Socialism within the nation.

That is right where we are now and it is probably too late to stop it what with MxCain being installed as President there will be amnesty. Thirty five million new “amnesty Americans” that have been born and raised under a socialist government (mexico) will hit the voting booths in 2010 and 2012 and these amnesty/welfare voters will eliminate any chance of a reasonable and decent President for at least three to five election cycles. By then there will be nothing left of this Republic to salvage.

It is my opinion that this election and the apparent installation of the mentally unstable candidate McCain will be the critical point of the destruction of the United States.

And just why is Juan not being scrutinized harder? He shows many indications of Posttraumatic Stress Disorder such as irritability, anger, poor concentration, difficulty remembering things, problems regulating feelings, explosive anger, and passive aggressive behaviors. This is what we want on the nuclear button?

Would this country let a sitting President back into the White House if he had been captured by enemy forces and held incommunicado for five years? Would that not be a severe security risk?

John McCain, being recognized by the Vietnamese as the son of VERY high ranking officers could have been brainwashed and programmed to invoke nuclear war if he ever had the chance. The united States has a history of promoting just such individuals into high office and the Vietnamese knew this. No telling what went on for those five years he was a prisoner. The other guys that were in the same POW prison all said that he would disappear for days at a time…

And now we have the current Juan McCain. Clearly the absolutely WORST p.o.s. that could stumble into the position he is in now. He has a decade long record of backstabbing every conservative Republican he can get to. He is constantly on the wrong side of all issues and has been for YEARS. Yet our Government has become such a garbage heap that the only alternative is a full blown communist or the stealth Islamist?

Because that is the only argument the McCain supporters (and G-bots) are coming up with, “he is better that Hillary or Obama.”

Well, whoop-de-do! So now we hear things like… “ your gonna get the bad guy if you “stay home” from voting in the fall election because you didn’t get the “perfect” republican candidate.

and

the facts of this situation being quietly stated…

“You can thank the Republicans "hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils" strategy for the advancement of Socialism within the party and the nation.

Joseph Farah

We are now to the point of we only get 6% of what we need and the pinhead gallery is chastising US because we refuse to keep reloading the gun that is shooting us in the foot.

I for one want the "republican party" to just die. If Juan MxCain is going to be sold to us as "he is a conservative, really, just ask him, he will tell you" is high time to pull the plug on the pubs. Let the Dems take the blame for ALL of the crap they get into. No more republican derangement. Just let the Dems drown in their own s**t. Lets go to Fred and start with something simple and straightforward.

The Thompson PAC for true conservatives. Call it T-PACC. Thompson Political Action Committee for Conservatism. Invite in Duncan and Tom. Others as they prove themselves through documented performance, not a bunch of election campaign lies. And build from there.

In the meantime we need to petition the RNC to STOP MxCain.

< /Rant >


29 posted on 02/14/2008 4:57:10 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: shadowgovernment
If it's against Hillary he may have a chance, it will be the mean, vindictive, old man against the mean, vindictive, old woman.

If it's against the pretty face, with the meaningless flowery words, McCain is in big trouble.

30 posted on 02/14/2008 4:57:18 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: factmart
ONE THING WE NEED TO DO IS VOTE REPLUBLICAN FOR ALL OTHER OFFICES! CAN WE AGREE ON THAT!

Yes we can!!! I completely agree!!

31 posted on 02/14/2008 4:59:02 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Wayiseeit

I’m sorry, as a conservative, there is no way I’ll vote for McCain (obviously not Hillary nor Obamma either).

I used to be one of those that would compromise and vote for the Republican nominee to avoid the “greater evil”, however, given McCain as the nominee, what is the difference now?

I’ve recently come to the realization that as conservative voters continue to endorse left of center Republicans, these candidates take these endorsements as a referendum.

The more conservatives avoid the “greater evil” by voting for RINO’s the more they are endorsing a shift away from conservatism!

Yep, this decision not to vote for McCain brings the potential eventuality that a continued shift towards socialism shall occur in the next four years, via the election of the Democratic nominee, perhaps even an irreparable shift. Let’s hope not, however, the time has come to make a stand.

I cannot and will not vote for McCain. I’ll either stay home or write in someone that I would like to see in charge of this country. Senator Jeff Sessions form Alabama immediately comes to mind (and I’m from NJ, just recently relocated to NH, and yes I voted Duncan Hunter in the NH primary).


32 posted on 02/14/2008 4:59:11 PM PST by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: TLI

“You can thank the Republicans “hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils” strategy for the advancement of Socialism within the party and the nation.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>............
that sums it up very well, and your rant is right on. Thank you and I hope venting it will help others. see my tag.


33 posted on 02/14/2008 5:04:40 PM PST by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: factmart
OK! I understand the sentiments expressed her all to well, but what choice do we now have? I can’t stand McCain. I vowed I would never vote for him but to let an out and out socialist like Obama or Hillary win... No way!! We have got to buy time until a real conservative can rise again. And I don’t believe that by not voting where as allowing a Dem to win will punish the country so much so that the people will finally awaken to our conservative ideals will work.
34 posted on 02/14/2008 5:05:52 PM PST by markman
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To: c-b 1
“McCain is in big trouble.”
>>>>...........
I would change that to GOP is in big trouble - the game they are playing” Socialist lite”..and anti conservative
is rolling the dice, but they should realize the dice are loaded and big money is out to gut the GOP.
Heres the shadow government part: the elites have come to the conclusion that: A one world Government is inevitable
and they (GOP and DNC and media and Big Corps) to get a place at the ruling table must sacrifice the Constitution and the Republic it created ..Global warming UN tax , Law of the Sea UN tax, Now UN poverty tax passed in house waiting in Senate -Citing of world court judgments in rulings on our Scotus- open borders would all support this idea. Boston Tea party anyone?
35 posted on 02/14/2008 5:14:09 PM PST by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: markman

“I understand the sentiments expressed her all to well, but what choice do we now have? “
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..............
Boston tea party anyone..see my tag line.


36 posted on 02/14/2008 5:17:27 PM PST by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: markman
And I don’t believe that by not voting where as allowing a Dem to win will punish the country so much so that the people will finally awaken to our conservative ideals will work.

So. You want to continue pulling the trigger of the gun that is tied to you shin and pointed at your foot?

Sometimes, just every now and then you have to see the handwriting on the wall that tells you it is a loose-loose situation.

So the real question is do you loose by taking a course of action that will allow you to achieve what you want in a few years or do you loose with a course of action where you are "only" slightly worse off than before?

37 posted on 02/14/2008 5:19:35 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: shadowgovernment

Yep.


38 posted on 02/14/2008 5:22:01 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: markman
“And I don’t believe that by not voting where as allowing a Dem to win will punish the country so much so that the people will finally awaken to our conservative ideals will work.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>..............
have faith the Founding fathers of our GREAT COUNTRY saw far into the future they knew we would be challenged to keep our Freedoms..I know people can change when they understand the greatness of the Constitution and what true freedom means..for todays issues my tag line is where I find an answer. I repeat BOSTON tea party anyone?
the beginning of a new American Revolution.
39 posted on 02/14/2008 5:24:01 PM PST by shadowgovernment (From the Ashes of a Republican rout will raise a Conservative Party)
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To: Wayiseeit
Fundraising – another indicator of support – remains an issue for McCain going forward, Davis acknowledges. The McCain campaign has pledged to accept federal funding in the general election.

"Taking that money is a lot easier for me than having to go out and raise $100 million," Davis says. "We haven't really proved we are able to attract large sums of money the way the Democrats have.… I don't know if it is because we are lousy at fundraising or Republicans are tired of giving money to politicians…. If I were raising $35 million a month [like Obama] I would think that through."

As close as they will ever come to telling you the conservatives have shut off the cash flow. I never gave great somes but I gave and now I don't. It wasn't just election years it was all the time to the party and candidates but no more.

At this point McCain can run as conservative as he wants too and it wont matter, I simply don't trust him. I don't trust any of the 3 still in play.

40 posted on 02/14/2008 5:29:21 PM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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