At first, I was inclined to agree with the comments on that thread that the correlation with obese folks was just a coincidence because the obese wanted to avoid getting bigger. Now, I'm not so sure about it. It's not wise trying to fool mother nature.
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Since most “sugar” now is HFCS, I think I’ll be sticking with aspartame.
I’ve been thinking about this. I drink a lot of them. I stopped eating in the evening over a week ago. I’ve probably cut a fourth to half of my calories. I have lost ...nada.
For awhile I was giving my kids the artificially sweetened waters. We stopped the whole artificial sweetner when my daughter’s neurologist said that it can lower seizure thresholds. Regular sugar does not lower seizure thresholds.
Now, my kids just limit their soda intake, and they drink lots of water.
Ping for later.....
I’m not a dietiican, but I would think that many studies had been done on what the body does (produce insulin, etc) when sweets/sugars/carbs are consumed.
I could understand why the body gets tricked into a drive to consume and reduce calories/activity when simple carbohydrates are eaten.
I’ve noticed this phenomenon personally. Diet soda is just empty crap that confuses your body. That being said, I hate how these people report the findings.
I’ve tastes artificial sugar one time, and never again. I can’t stand diet soda. I’ve also never weighed more than 135 soaking wet.
Hmmm...could it be?
I saw this article copied in our Sunday paper.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/06/healthscience/05symp.php
“Researchers have found a correlation between drinking diet soda and metabolic syndrome — the collection of risk factors for cardiovascular disease and diabetes that include abdominal obesity, high cholesterol and blood glucose levels — and elevated blood pressure.”
Of course if the researchers depended on self-reporting, that opens up a whole new can of worms. They need to do some testing under controlled conditions.
This is a fine example of one of the sloppiest written, most confused piece of reporting I have ever seen. At first, it says thet art. sweeteners causes MORE eating, then later it says “greater body weight gain with THE SAME FOOD. The author is confused.
Right away, I saw the flaw in this experiment: saccharine tastes like crap! I don’t know how they even get away with calling it a “sweetener.”
The “dangers” of aspartame are a hoax. But it does taste bad to some people. If you are one of them, use Splenda.
Splenda is great stuff.
Sugar is basically poison.
If you don’t carry a diet soda around all day—sip, sip, sip, nonstop—you won’t have a problem. Drink or eat something that artificially sweetened—along with some real food—and you won’t have a problem with insulin resistance.
These experiments with rats and couch potatoes are ludicrous. All such an experiment can possibly show is how a rat or a couch potato might be able to lose a little weight. And at the end of the experiment, the rat is still a rat and the couch potato is still a couch potato.
Independent researchers say Splenda chemically resembles pesticides. The bonds between its carbon and chlorine atoms are more like a chlorocarbon than a salt — and most pesticides are chlorocarbons. The manufacturer’s own studies showed that Splenda caused shrunken thymus glands and enlarged livers and kidneys in rodents. Despite this, the FDA approved it due to the manufacturers’ “stature” in the industry.
Source: http://www.womentowomen.com/nutritionandweightloss/splenda.aspx
For an all-natural, calorie free sugar substitute that actually has nutritional benefits (better insulin regulation, etc.), try Stevia, particularly Stevia extract. If you have a Trader Joe’s in your area, their product is excellent, and cost effective.
Dump the diet drinks.
My doc (new doc) insisted.
But I like my sweet drinks so my bottled water guy gave me x20 flavored powder to add to my water.
It is stevia leave extract and cofeeberry both also work in the liver on insulin issues.
All Natural. In 3 diff. flavors.
Spendy though.
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Who uses saccharin any more? It’s NutraSweet for me.
Geeze! What a **dumb** study!
As someone who’s gained and lost weight at various times, I’d put zero credibility in this study. Not that their findings may not be true for rats, but lets face it, rats will piss on their own food.
90% of weight loss is caloric intake.. reduce your intake, you’ll lose weight... being more active helps, and yes, you have to deal with plateaus and modifications to what you are doing to get past them, but no way someone consciously watching their calorie intake and using artificial sweetners to help with it, is overcompensating with calories elsewhere.
The sweetner is also “tied” to MS and brain cancer..
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I believe that it was recommended in the Atkins diet that you limit the amount of artificial sweetners because they can fool the brain into thinking that they are sugars, but I think that Splenda was different. I don’t remember why. Atkins also said that the other sweetners like equal are particularly bad for migraine headache sufferers.
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