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To: Pistolshot

Why would you need a gun at the mall? If everybody went through a metal detector, and no guns were allowed in, what would be the problem? I admit it’s not a perfect solution, but do you have a better idea? I’m just exploring ideas on what we can do to prevent our malls from becoming shooting galleries.


26 posted on 02/05/2008 11:59:37 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Liberals, at heart, are totalitarians - knocking down our freedoms right and left.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Sorry, you are naive to think that the only doors into the mall are the ones you go through to get to the stores.

You are naive to think the criminal mind will adhere to following the rules.

You are naive to think that putting a machine in place for the appearence of safety is nothing more than a false sense of security.

I carry, because I can. I carry, because the police are not liable for my safety, I am. I carry, because there are people in this world who have no remorse for taking life from others. I carry, because I am a valuable contributor to society and not a victim to be slaughtered like sheep. I carry because I am trained and willing to defend others. Whether that happens is not dependent on me, but the resolution should it happen may rest with me.

Had ANY of those women been trained, armed, and able, they possibly would not be dead.

The message Concealed Carry delivers to the criminal element is simple.

You do not know who is carrying, and most likely will get shot trying to commit any atrocity.

31 posted on 02/05/2008 12:09:55 PM PST by Pistolshot (Remember, no matter how bad your life is, someone is watching and enjoying your suffering.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Why would you need a gun at the mall?

This incident didn't answer that question for you?

32 posted on 02/05/2008 12:10:08 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Why would you need a gun at the mall?

PUT THE KOOL AID DOWN AND STEP AWAY FROM THE PITCHER! Are you daffy, trying to play Devil's advocate or are you just a trolling flaming liberal? I deal with criminals on a daily basis and I know what's out there. That's why I carry at the mall and anywhere else I happen to go. And when I get home, I don't put my pistol up. Although I live in an upscale neighborhood, that's no guarantee that a home invasion can't happen. Anymore you need to be prepared all the time.

33 posted on 02/05/2008 12:13:00 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Why would you need a gun at the mall?

Because there are wolves who on occasion come hunting for sheep at the mall. Trolley Square in SLC, Westroads Mall in Omaha, and now this one in Tinley Park.

If everybody went through a metal detector, and no guns were allowed in, what would be the problem?

What happens when the guard(s) at the metal detectors get popped in the head by the wolf, and the wolf goes right on through the metal detector into the mall full of unarmed sheep? I'll tell you what happens - we get another mall full of dead, innocent sheep.

I’m just exploring ideas on what we can do to prevent our malls from becoming shooting galleries.

Our malls have already become shooting galleries, and what you propose disarms only the law-abiding sheepdogs who desire to protect themselves, their families, and possibly even you. If you want to be a sheep, fine with me, continue to be one. But don't suggest policies that tell the sheepdog he can't protect himself or his loved ones.

If you want to be a sheepdog, I say to you welcome to the fraternity, and strongly suggest you read Jeffrey Snyder's "Nation of Cowards", and also the essay by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman "On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs", from his book On Combat.

FRegards,

H-T

43 posted on 02/05/2008 12:21:17 PM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Why would you need a gun at the mall? If everybody went through a metal detector, and no guns were allowed in, what would be the problem? I admit it’s not a perfect solution, but do you have a better idea? I’m just exploring ideas on what we can do to prevent our malls from becoming shooting galleries.

Are you actually being SERIOUS here? I can not BELIEVE you're pushing this liberal nonsense on this site.

"Exploring ideas"? How about everyone carrying their own weapon?

"Why would you need a gun in the mall?" Golly, I dunno, maybe because some criminal maggot with intent to harm others HAS ONE TOO? I think that if you had me, a 50 year old guy standing there next to you, trained in the use of several types of weapons, 20-something years of military service and a law-abiding citizen, when some dumbass bad guy decides he wanted to shoot the place up -- I'd be better at protecting your life than 1) YOU would, 2) Anyone else standing near by without a gun or 3) ANY cop within 20 minutes of the place.... why? BECAUSE I'M THERE.

There are plenty of reasons to carry your own weapon, in the MALL - and most of them are gang members, criminals and would-be robbers. The rest are walking-around murderers, and those who wannabemurderers... like the guy that killed those women.

And you're telling me you think a METAL DETECTOR might have stopped this?
50 posted on 02/05/2008 12:35:54 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Why would you need a gun at the mall?

See article at the top of this thread for your answer.

59 posted on 02/05/2008 1:21:00 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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