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Internet sales should be taxed, Romney says [Flashback to 2003, when Romney was young and foolish]
The Daily Free Press ^ | 4/25/03 | Dennis Mayer

Posted on 01/27/2008 3:26:43 PM PST by Tigen

Massachusetts residents may have to pay sales tax on items ordered on the internet, although officials involved in the decision say nothing definite will be decided in the immediate future.

A law signed by Gov. Mitt Romney last month includes the state in the Streamlined Sales Tax Project, a group founded in March 2000 that discusses common problems with collecting sales tax, including those from internet sales, according to Tim Connolly, communications director for the Mass. Dept. of Revenue. The department will represent the state at the meetings, beginning with one held in Indianapolis on May 19 and 20.

“What Governor Romney signed was a provision that allows state officials to attend the next series of meetings the Streamlined Sales Tax will have,” Connolly said. “[A decision about the tax is] certainly not something that’s imminent.”

Connolly said 38 states participated in the organization last year, a number that is growing with the addition of such states as Massachusetts this year.

He said an often-cited study from the University of Tennessee reports that Massachusetts missed out on about $200.6 million in internet sales tax in 2001.

Romney spokeswoman Nicole St. Peter said the governor signed the bill after a suggestion from the legislature.

“It was part of the budget balancing bill for the fiscal year ‘03,” St. Peter said. “We were really the only state who has a sales tax who had not been part of the group prior to this year.”

Current law allows internet businesses to collect taxes only if they also have a physical store in the state, according to Bill Wyatt, public affairs manager for the National Conference of State Legislatures, which heads the Streamlined Sales Tax Project. He said collection is considered “too burdensome” since there are more than 7,500 taxing jurisdictions in the country.

“The goal of the project is to create a voluntary system where retailers who sign up to use the system, through technology, will be able to collect sales tax,” he said. “In exchange for voluntarily using this technology, they will receive less liability in terms of auditing from the government. They would also receive compensation for collecting the sales taxes.

“This is just a process to level the playing field between the main street retailers and the online retailers.”

One of the first steps of the project is to create common definitions for all items in all states, Wyatt said.

According to the National Governor’s Association website, problems arise when dealing with an item like orange juice, since some states classify orange juice as a fruit and tax it, while others classify it as a beverage and do not tax it. Once universal definitions are established, the technology can be developed and distributed to businesses in an attempt to collect the tax.

“The retailer would collect the money and remit it to Massachusetts,” Wyatt said. “The technology that is being developed would make that fairly easy.”

Wyatt said each state can still have its own rates for taxing, but the definitions must be consistent in order for the technology to work.

“In order for us to make the streamlined sales tax mandatory, it would take an action of Congress,” Wyatt said. “Once the technology is there and the burdensome barrier that the Supreme Court had set is eliminated because of the technology,” he said, referring to the 7,500 taxing jurisdictions, “Congress will go ahead and tell us we can [enforce the law]. Until that process, it’s going to be voluntary on behalf of the retailers.”

Chip Ford, director of operations for the Citizens for Limited Taxation, said he thinks there are two problems with the law that need to be dealt with before it can be passed on a national level.

“[First], the federal government mandates [taxes] and the states are trying to come up with a solution to it,” he said. “States can’t impose this unilaterally.”

“The second problem is you have some states that don’t have sales tax,” and the definitions would have to satisfy all of the states, including those that do not have sales tax, he said.

“It’s an interesting concept, but I think they have a long way to go,” he said.

Suzanne Hawes, owner of Joy of Socks, a store in Rockport, Mass., which has an affiliated online division, said she thinks it could be time-consuming for a small businesses to learn how to use the technology and pay the applicable tax.

“We’re hoping even if the laws are passed, they might not affect us, but maybe that’s just wishful thinking,” she said.

Hawes said she thinks consumers will think of the tax as an additional fee they must pay in excess of shipping. She said she thinks some people might spend more in order to “justify” paying the tax.

“I think sometimes the convenience factor of the internet will override [the tax],” she said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; ecommerce; election; elections; internet; internettax; internettaxes; romney; tax; taxes; taxincrease
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1 posted on 01/27/2008 3:26:44 PM PST by Tigen
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To: Tigen

Well if that ain’t anti- green carbon credit policy. No overhead for retail outlets saves energy from not having to HVAC the store and the clerk doesn’t burn gas back and forth every day to sell items with 50% mark ups.


2 posted on 01/27/2008 3:29:25 PM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Tigen

Good, except the President alone doesn’t raise taxes.


3 posted on 01/27/2008 3:29:25 PM PST by Blogger (Propheteuon.com)
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To: Tigen

April, 2003

Old news.
4 posted on 01/27/2008 3:29:31 PM PST by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Tigen

Misleading headline, to say the least.

Worrying, though.


5 posted on 01/27/2008 3:29:47 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: Tigen
“The technology that is being developed would make that fairly easy.”

Yeah, I hear they're getting pretty good at that type of monitoring in China...
6 posted on 01/27/2008 3:29:50 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: Tigen

If the government knows about it, they should get a slice of the pie, basically.


7 posted on 01/27/2008 3:30:02 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Tigen
The government has learned from the mob and gangs in the inner city.

If you come up with a way of making a few dollars and you're in their 'territory', they will find you and make you pay for 'protection'.

8 posted on 01/27/2008 3:30:33 PM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Tigen

And people like this guy...


9 posted on 01/27/2008 3:31:11 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: Tigen

I am already taxed on things I buy from the internet. What’s he talking about.


10 posted on 01/27/2008 3:31:12 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Tigen

I’m not big on Romney, but out of fairness, conservative Republican Governor Engler took the same position in Michigan around that time. I disagreed but that by itself didn’t make him a bad governor.


11 posted on 01/27/2008 3:31:38 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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If I see things correctly, the Congress has never seen a tax they didn't like.

I'm more leery of Romney all the time, but it doesn't look like we have much of a choice, whoever the R is!

Whatever.... I'll hold my nose and vote for him.

12 posted on 01/27/2008 3:31:46 PM PST by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Tigen

Romney is liberal to the bone! He raised taxes, backed homo marriages, he’s a gun grabber, a baby killer, a globalist. Like I said, he’s liberal to the bone. He’s not even a RINO. He should just join the RAT party.


13 posted on 01/27/2008 3:32:00 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: Tigen

Boy, he will see his net support dry up faster than a Utah stream in summer.


14 posted on 01/27/2008 3:32:18 PM PST by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Larry Lucido

Correction. Engler wasn’t governor by that time. He took that position years earlier.


15 posted on 01/27/2008 3:32:31 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: freekitty

the article is from April of 2003


16 posted on 01/27/2008 3:32:57 PM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the work of the media.)
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To: Tigen

Now, now, now, drink your Kool-Aid and stop bringing up Willard’s liberal record.


17 posted on 01/27/2008 3:33:12 PM PST by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: freekitty

so do I.


18 posted on 01/27/2008 3:34:04 PM PST by donnab (don't blame me ...I supported Fred.)
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To: freekitty

Unless the place you’re buying from over the Internet either has an operation in your state or is in a state that requires the payment of sales tax despite the destination of the good being out of state, you don’t normally pay taxes on an Internet purchase. (Has to do with interstate commerce and therefore is the jurisdiction of the Feds.)

After this past Christmas shopping season (where the online retailers did so well and the retail stores didn’t), expect to see a lot of pushing for there to be a “playing field levelling” sales tax.


19 posted on 01/27/2008 3:35:21 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Tigen
Yeah, but he's against all that now. That was years ago, in 2003! He's been anti-tax for at least a week now. If you weren't such an anti-Mormon bigot, you'd know that.

You know, Ronald Reagan would have wanted the internet tax too. That's why Mitt Romney is so dreamy. Not only does he look beautiful, but he's done every questionable thing that Reagan ever did not once, but for MANY YEARS!

If you could see past your bigotry, you'd know this and you'd know the boon for the grecian formula market that Romney's nomination would bring to this country. This is an industry that has been suffering for years and could be sustained single-handedly by Mitt Romney The Presidential Candidate.™

20 posted on 01/27/2008 3:35:23 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Yeah, I'm a bigot. I'm bigoted against MA liberals pretending to be conservative.)
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