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They made promises, today they should honor them.

Normally I agree with that. However, in this case, the promises were made by fools and will result in the suicide of the promiser. If Europe is lost to the Muslims then America becomes more or less an Island in a hostile world. If you think its odd that Venezula is sucking up to Iran now, wait till all of Europe is under Sharia. We probably won’t see it, but our grandchildren might. And that DOES concern me.

What you’re suggesting amounts to letting off those who fell into our back, who played with the lives of our troops and cost us billions, with no consequences.

Even the Europeans are already realizing the danger and they will not let Turkey enter, but we should let them squirm and not be the ones that look like the bad guys. Let the Germans take the egg in the face when they say “Nein Danke” to the Turks for no reason other than the obvious. They made the promises; we shouldn’t help them out of the hole they dug in an effort to undermine us. Just like we are responsible and are paying the price in Iraq (And we are), they should stand good for their words and actions.

http://www.msc.navy.mil/sealift/2003/May/army.htm

Turkey in the EU is not going to happen, don’t be worried about that. But we can buy favor with the Turks whom we need by standing behind them and it should not be a high priority to excuse the deals the Germans made with the Turks. In 2003 the Germans were very “Stolz” (Proud) of these actions. Their chancellor more or less said the GWOT is a figment of George Bush’s imagination. They outright denied any Islamic threat although the political elite knew the truth very well and internally already began clamping down by changing immigration, deportation laws; starting a massive eaves dropping program which coincidentally was targeting things like Mosques…...

You’re making the assumption that Turkey has a chance, they don’t. But the weasels should be asked to clean up their own poop and it’s a little bit much asked for us to help them. Let them deal with the backlash through the entire Islamic world. Let them deal with 2 million pissed off Turks in Germany………… The political smoothing over, the intentional avoidance of this issue within German political circles is not without reason. While a high priority issue in Turkey, even in some other Muslim nations, Germany is near silent. But eventually they will have to make the call, and when they do, it won’t be pretty. This is one of those issues which may change as administrations change out. But for now don’t expect us to change course, and frankly we shouldn’t even after 20 Jan 2009.