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Maine Dems reject parental consent bill
Bangor Daily News ^ | January 25, 2008 | Mal Leary

Posted on 01/25/2008 3:51:17 PM PST by george76

Legislative leaders, voting along party lines on Thursday, rejected proposed legislation that would require parental consent for schools to give children 14 and under prescription drugs, including birth control pills. Republican Sen. Douglas Smith of Dover-Foxcroft, who sponsored the measure, denounced Democratic leaders for not allowing the issue to be considered this session.

"This is a fundamental right we are talking about here," Smith said. "This is a parental right to control the prescription drugs their children are taking. The Democratic majority today felt that the state should have the right to intercede in that, and that is an unfortunate decision."

The proposed legislation grew out of a decision last fall by the Portland School Board to allow King Middle School to make all types of birth control available to students through its health center. Condoms have been available through the center since 2000.

Under current state law, children do not need their parents’ consent to obtain prescription drugs through their school.

Most middle-schoolers range in age from 11 to 13 and under the Portland School Board’s policy need parental permission to use the health center, but treatment is confidential under state law.

Students are not required to tell their parents what services they are using at the center.

(Excerpt) Read more at bangornews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: abortion; augusta; birthcontrol; maine; parentalconsent; publicschool; publicschools; school; schools
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1 posted on 01/25/2008 3:51:18 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Why people have their children in public schools is beyond me.


2 posted on 01/25/2008 3:53:06 PM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: wagglebee; metmom

“I don’t care who you are or what you think your mandate is .... You do not come anywhere near my child with your agenda without my consent.”

Vernon of Bangor


3 posted on 01/25/2008 3:53:33 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Why doesn’t the court step in on the grounds of parental rights???


4 posted on 01/25/2008 3:54:32 PM PST by nckerr (www.myspace.com/ArmyKerrFamily)
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To: CatQuilt

There’s nothing wrong with public schools. The problem is the parents giving total and complete control of their children over to the state. Today, far too many parents can’t be bothered to be parents.


5 posted on 01/25/2008 3:56:40 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: nckerr

“Why doesn’t the court step in on the grounds of parental rights???”

I believe a judge already addressed this saying a parents rights over their kids stops at the school door. Something to that effect.


6 posted on 01/25/2008 3:56:53 PM PST by JZelle
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To: george76
Birth Control, anti-depressants, Ritalin, and so on. This is a really bad idea. I have a lib sister who teaches in a middle school in Maine. I sure hope she doesn’t celebrate this idiocy, but I’m afraid she would shriek “You just don’t know what terrible homes these kids come from, you can’t possibly understand.”
7 posted on 01/25/2008 3:59:01 PM PST by luckymom (Forget the baby whales, save the baby humans.)
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To: luckymom
“You just don’t know what terrible homes these kids come from, you can’t possibly understand.”

She may have a point. They are coming from the homes of the people who elect these lunatics, after all.

8 posted on 01/25/2008 4:03:23 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (John McCain: Bush Derangement Syndrome's "Patient Zero")
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To: luckymom
but I’m afraid she would shriek “You just don’t know what terrible homes these kids come from, you can’t possibly understand.”

I'm afraid you may be right; that's the standard fall-back position.

9 posted on 01/25/2008 4:03:59 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: george76

Insanity. Our public schools in action.


10 posted on 01/25/2008 4:18:34 PM PST by ought-six
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To: george76
"To have public school officials making these types decisions and cutting the parents and guardians out of the process makes this even more insidious. This is more than just an embarrassment for Maine and Portland. It appears to be part of the larger agenda by secular progressives to lower our cultural standards, and they are using our young people to do so."

"This irresponsible action is indicative of the erosion of our cultural values. To have public schools playing a lead role in this is an outrage, and sends exactly the wrong message to our young people. Republicans need leaders who are not afraid to stand up for our core beliefs and values and I look forward to engaging these types of issues head-on during my candidacy for Congress," concluded Scontras.

TEAM DEAN '08

11 posted on 01/25/2008 4:27:55 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: george76; All

Regarding this very disturbing interference of Dems with parental authority, note that Mark 7:6-13, particularly verses 9-13, indicates that Jesus had reprimanded the Pharisees for likewise driving a wedge between parents and their children, wrongly nullifying the 5th Commandment.


12 posted on 01/25/2008 4:33:15 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: mtbopfuyn
Public schools are an arm of the State. They (the schools) are run by leftist school committee members who use that committee as a stepping stone to the state offices.

Perhaps you're lucky enough to not be in an area where this is the case yet...

13 posted on 01/25/2008 4:33:21 PM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: JZelle
I believe a judge already addressed this saying a parents rights over their kids stops at the school door. Something to that effect.

A judge has ruled that way in MA regarding the Parkers of Lexington.

14 posted on 01/25/2008 4:36:03 PM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
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To: george76

In our district, the school nurse can’t even give the kids Advil without parental consent. No OTC drugs, no nothing.


15 posted on 01/25/2008 4:40:49 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: JZelle
"To raise a happy, healthy and hopeful child, it takes...all of us. Yes, it takes a village."-Hillary Clinton addressing the 1996 Democratic Convention

"Parents give up their rights when they drop the children off at public school."1-Texas Federal District Judge Melinda Harmon

"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances toward our founding fathers, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being.... It's up to you, teachers, to make all of these sick children well by creating the international children of the future.5

Educational leaders have warned that it's not enough to change the children. Adults must be reached as well. The solution? Hillary Clinton's vision of the collective village! Her book popularized today's plan for child raising through a network of "partnerships" designed to weaken the rights of noncompliant parents. Teachers, social workers, psychologists, business and church leaders... all would trained in the new ways of thinking and believing. All would be taught to compromise and find "common ground". All must embrace the new visions and values. And all must help parents raise their children according to politically correct ways-whether parents want their training or not.

After all, the collective society cannot, as Hillary Clinton suggests, "arrive at a consensus of values and a common vision,"6 unless everyone participates in the process. Nor can it create Clinton's form of consensus without "resisting the lure of extremist rhetoric and balancing individual rights and freedoms with personal responsibility and mutual obligations."7 All people must join in the new community dialogues where trained facilitators lead unsuspecting "stakeholders" toward predetermined outcome. All must be willing to pay for their personal rights by accepting the new collective responsibilities.--What Happened To Parental Rights? by Berit Kjos - 1996

Obama would be wise to seize on this issue. Or How does Obama feel on the parental consent bill which has appeared all over the country and is a definite HOT BUTTON.

16 posted on 01/25/2008 4:40:50 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; bill1952; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This is becoming a fairly high volume list.
17 posted on 01/25/2008 4:42:03 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Good : the school nurse can’t even give the kids Advil without parental consent...


18 posted on 01/25/2008 4:43:51 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: fight_truth_decay
"Parents give up their rights when they drop the children off at public school."1-Texas Federal District Judge Melinda Harmon

Um, no.

Parents aren't turning their kids over to be raised or abdicating their rights by having them receive their education at the school.

They're sending them to the public schools to be educated with the tax money that's extorted from them, or at least that's what's supposed to be going on.

Basically, the schools have been hired to provide a service to the parents. They are not the families overlords. They need to get off their power trip, get over themselves, and get back to doing the job they were hired to do.

19 posted on 01/25/2008 4:47:02 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
In our district, the school nurse can’t even give the kids Advil without parental consent

This power given the school nurse or doctor was rolled into the common consent form, which could be easily signed by parents, who over run with permission slips/forms at the onset of school, did/would not realize this dispersion of birth control was inserted under patient/school/doctor confidentiality. It became "bundled"..

I am told by a teacher of a incident where a young teen girl and Maine student has asked for this form of protection after her irritability, unable to consentrate on classes at her school was traced to her mother's boyfriend being sexually agressive, and she was worried about getting pregnant. She was not aware it takes 30 days to build up the desired protection needed and expressed anxiety. Her comment was he "would not wait". She was not seeking his advances. She was given directly to the School's doctor who is on campus several days a week. Now is all protected doctor/ patient information. Whether it was reported to authorities, I have no idea.

20 posted on 01/25/2008 4:54:06 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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