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Ex-Lawmaker Charged in Terror Conspiracy (Former U.S. congressman)
ap wire ^ | Jan. 16, 2008 | ap

Posted on 01/16/2008 12:11:59 PM PST by varina davis

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To: Eva

Pretty close.

He won a special election to fill the remainder of David Stockman’s term. Stockman was picked to be Reagan’s head of OMB.

Siljander was an evangelical and tended to be outspoken - which put him at odds with the GOP establishment in that area.

In ‘86, he was challenged by Fred Upton in the GOP primary. Upton’s family was linked to Whirlpool. Upton decisively beat him and has been in the seat ever since.


101 posted on 01/16/2008 6:07:13 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: Gondring
Interesting find.

Since I've admitted to, back in the day, voting for the guy... I guess my reputation (such as it may have been) is now tarnished beyond repair. Forever to be associated with an accused terrorist supporter which will now be used against me, here, whenever it may be convenient to do so. Heaven help me if he's actually convicted.

I'll attempt to take some solace in that at least he hasn't used me as a reference for his business and I never appointed him to any UN position, although, those things likely never would have happened if I wasn't such an idiot back then so I guess, in the end, those things are my fault too.

:-(

102 posted on 01/16/2008 6:32:08 PM PST by michigander (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: cake_crumb

Another Crook from Crook County. Big surprise. Most Republicans in Crook County are emasculated at an early age by the prevailing Daley thinking-schools, churches, politicians, media, etc. are all subverted by it. I’m sure a few here escaped, but very few.


103 posted on 01/16/2008 6:45:10 PM PST by LongTimeMILurker
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To: OldGuard1

I was pleasantly surprised when I heard this on the radio earlier. I didn’t hear a party so assumed it was Democrat, turns out it was Republican. Strange, not the way things usually work.


104 posted on 01/16/2008 7:05:31 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Gondring; All

I’m not on my regular computer tonight, so I can’t look it up for you, but the perp in question when a congressman worked on anti abortion/right to life bill with Hunter and ??? (another conserv. congressman, can’t remember, I will get it tomorrow. ) The perp was a very respected pro life guy at that time, in the 80’s. That’s the only association that I found. George Bush is pro life as well. Are you saying you have any other association for
Hunter?

Now, if you’re trying to dream up some grand conspiracy that Hunter is soft on Islamists, just keep digging.

Did you notice the several Muslim Groups websites Ron Paul for President and the Muslim newspapers in Michigan that endorsed him??


105 posted on 01/16/2008 7:06:52 PM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: Brilliant

True, and now I would like to see ALL the liberals who have done the same thing, indicted.


106 posted on 01/16/2008 7:09:30 PM PST by gidget7 ( Vote for the Arsenal of Democracy, because America RUNS on Duncan!)
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To: truth_seeker
The biggest word in the English language is “IF” I guess I left that out of my post. I’m sure all these charges were fabricated.
107 posted on 01/16/2008 7:14:34 PM PST by 4yearlurker (Thanks Vets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Gondring
could it be that he truly fell for the "RoP" and "we all worship the same God" lines,

I doubt it. I think it was the color of the papers they held in front of his nose (white and green piles of paper with Ben Franklin's portrait everywhere). That color tends to speak loudly across all kinds of cultural divides. Or at least to the right kind of person it does.

108 posted on 01/16/2008 7:32:56 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: Clintonfatigued

Alright will do!


109 posted on 01/16/2008 8:41:04 PM PST by RatsDawg (Hsu out the Democrats in 2008!, Go Hsu-less vote GOP)
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To: eleni121
Siljander takes an interest in conflict resolution, particularly in the Islamic world, and in recent years has tried to publicize the common ground between Christianity and Islam, particularly in the portrayal of Jesus in the Qur'an. This is a turnaround from a previous position in which he objected to the Qur'an being read at a prayer breakfast, asking the emcee: "How can you read the book of the devil at a prayer breakfast?"[10] He described himself as "trained as an evangelical Christian; I was a poster boy for Jerry Falwell."[10] He is widely traveled, and claims to have visited over 120 countries.[11] Siljander is also one of the few American politicians to have visited Libya in recent years.[citation needed] In November 2006, Siljander gave a speech at Oxford University called "Overcoming the Muslim Western Divide".[

Stealth convert?

110 posted on 01/16/2008 9:12:16 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: michigander
Since I've admitted to, back in the day, voting for the guy... I guess my reputation (such as it may have been) is now tarnished beyond repair. Forever to be associated with an accused terrorist supporter which will now be used against me, here, whenever it may be convenient to do so. Heaven help me if he's actually convicted.

Hang down you hear head, Tom Michigander;
Hang down your head, and cry!
Hang down your head, Tom Michigander;
Poor FReeper, you're about to die!

Before we hang you from that white oak tree, do you have any accomplices you would like to implicate? The more names you name, the less likely we'll use a choker rather than breaker knot on the rope.

111 posted on 01/16/2008 10:46:22 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Gondring
Hey, nice sentiment, but in brief, I and most of the RoP's self declared "true believers" wont be buying this...

One of the 5 pillars of islam the one relating to hajj, the pilgrimage to makkah is laughable, as mohammadan apartheid dictates non-muslims may not even set foot there.

As for the shahaddah, it affirms that one belief mohammad is the messenger of the one God. Help me out here, but what Christian believes the murdering Arab thief, rapist, genocidal, warmongering deceiver is the latest messenger of God?

Yes, I'm being hard here, not as a personal attack, but to drive home a point.... as Christians so not see eyes to eye with this whitewash, neither will RoP true believers see this as some sort of bridge between cultures or religion. The ulema has final say, after all, and there's always the fun and games the salafi "true believers" will have with bidahris and the belief in the prophecy of 72 devient sects that have strayed from islam.

My personal take (feel free to disagree) from living is islmic nations, among both feral koranimals and those unlucky enough to be simply claimed by the "RoP" cult due to lottery of birth is not to look into their scripture for common ground, but to take them away from it, and ultimately deal with them as one party with principles and integrity to another.

112 posted on 01/17/2008 3:11:12 AM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade)
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To: MplsSteve

What kind of evangelical donates money to Al Qaeda?


113 posted on 01/17/2008 10:41:53 AM PST by Eva
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To: Eva

An ex-evangelical.


114 posted on 01/17/2008 11:28:59 AM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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To: flutters
From the link.

Toting his new book--A Deadly Misunderstanding: A Congressman's Quest to Bridge the Muslim-Christian Divide, Siljander explained how, according to his studies, the two religions aren't so different after all.

Staggering.

115 posted on 01/17/2008 1:43:12 PM PST by Jotmo (I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
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To: All

I don’t think it’s Michigan at all in this case, but a Cook County influence. St. Joseph County is like a far out suburb and vacation area for Chicago’s influential class including politicians. Chicago media dominates St. Joseph County. One thing I’ve noticed, is that these people think they can solve all the world’s problems by diplomacy and free trade. A slippery slope from idealism into what is more like bribery rather than supporting terrorism I would suspect.


116 posted on 01/17/2008 5:16:15 PM PST by LongTimeMILurker
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To: AuntB; Guenevere
Point is, I'm suggesting that those who claim "RINO" are knee-jerking. I believe Duncan Hunter is conservative and a good, honorable man. Before FReepers assume the accused must be a RINO or guilty, they might want to consider some of his background.

Is there any problem with that?!?

117 posted on 01/17/2008 8:34:34 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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